Analytic Geometry: Lines Problem

In summary, the coordinates of the vertex B can be found by determining the line that must contain B based on the given information about the lengths of the altitudes, and then using the point-slope formula to find the coordinates. Alternatively, the coordinates can be found by setting up an equation for the area of the triangle and solving for x, resulting in two possible locations for B.
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In a triangle ABC: A(-2,7) and C(7,-5).

The length of the altitude of AC is 5, and the length of the altitude of BC is the square root of 45. I wish to find the vertex B, given that it is below the line AC.

I need your help, I have no idea how to approach this.

Thank you in advance.

I have started by calculating that AC is -(4/3)x+(13/3)

that's more or less all I have done.
 
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  • #2
I think I would first use the information that the altitude from $\overline{AC}$ is 5 to determine a line that must contain $B$. We find the slope of $\overline{AC}$ is:

\(\displaystyle \frac{7+5}{-2-7}=-\frac{4}{3}\)

This line must contain a point $\left(x_1,y_1\right)$ whose slope with $A$ is \(\displaystyle \frac{3}{4}\) and whose distance from $A$ is 5. So, we may write:

\(\displaystyle \frac{7-y_1}{-2-x_1}=\frac{3}{4}\implies 7-y_1=-\frac{3}{4}\left(2+x_1\right)\)

\(\displaystyle \left(2+x_1\right)^2+\left(7-y_1\right)^2=25\)

\(\displaystyle \left(2+x_1\right)^2+\frac{9}{16}\left(2+x_1\right)^2=25\)

\(\displaystyle \frac{25}{16}\left(2+x_1\right)^2=25\)

\(\displaystyle \left(2+x_1\right)^2=16\)

\(\displaystyle 2+x_1=\pm4\)

\(\displaystyle x_1=-2\pm4\)

Since $B$ is said to lie below $\overline{AC}$, we take the solution:

\(\displaystyle x_1=-6\implies y_1=4\)

And so now armed with the slope and a point on the line which must contain $B$, using the point-slope formula, we find this line to be:

\(\displaystyle y=-\frac{4}{3}(x+6)+4=-\frac{4}{3}x-4=-\frac{4}{3}(x+3)\)

And so we may now label the coordinates of point $B$ as:

\(\displaystyle \left(x_B,-\frac{4}{3}\left(x_B+3\right)\right)\)

To continue, you need to find the $x_B$, such that the perpendicular distance from $A$ to the line through $B$ and $C$ is $\sqrt{45}$. (Thinking)
 
  • #3
Thank you for the assistance.

There is something wrong, or that I do not understand in your solution.

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I agree that the slope of BG is 3/4 like you said. But why is the distance between G and A is 5 ? The distance between B and G is 5. I am slightly confused. The line AC is y=(-4/3)+(13/3). G is on this line and the distance from G to B is 5.
 

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  • #4
What I am saying is that $B$ must lie on the red line:

\begin{tikzpicture}[xscale=0.5,yscale=0.5]
\usetikzlibrary{shapes,positioning,intersections,quotes}
\def\x{3};
\draw[<->] (-10.3,0) -- (10.3,0) node
{$x$};
\draw[<->] (0,-10.3) -- (0,10.3) node[above] {$y$};
\draw[domain=4.4:-10.1, variable=\x, red, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {-(4/3)*(\x+3)}) node[above] {$y=-\dfrac{4}{3}(x+3)$};
\node[circle,draw=blue, fill=blue, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (-2,7) {};
\node[above=1pt of {(-2,7)}, blue, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$A(-2,7)$};
\node[circle,draw=blue, fill=blue, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (7,-5) {};
\node[below=1pt of {(7,-5)}, blue, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$C(7,-5)$};
\end{tikzpicture}​
 
  • #5
Perhaps a simpler way to determine the coordinates of point $B$ is to observe the that area $A$ of the triangle must be:

\(\displaystyle A=\frac{1}{2}bh=\frac{1}{2}\overline{AC}\cdot5=\frac{5}{2}\sqrt{9^2+12^2}=\frac{75}{2}\)

We may also write:

\(\displaystyle A=\frac{1}{2}bh=\frac{1}{2}\overline{BC}\cdot\sqrt{45}=\frac{\sqrt{45}}{2}\sqrt{\left(7-x_B\right)^2+\left(\frac{4}{3}\left(x_B+3\right)-5\right)^2}\)

This implies:

\(\displaystyle \left(7-x_B\right)^2+\left(\frac{4}{3}\left(x_B+3\right)-5\right)^2=125\)

Solving this, we get:

\(\displaystyle x_B\in\{-3,9\}\)

And so this gives us two possible locations for point $B$:

\(\displaystyle B_1(-3,0)\)

\(\displaystyle B_2(9,-16)\)

\begin{tikzpicture}[xscale=0.375,yscale=0.375]
\usetikzlibrary{shapes,positioning,intersections,quotes}
\def\x{3};
\draw[<->] (-20.3,0) -- (20.3,0) node
{$x$};
\draw[<->] (0,-20.3) -- (0,20.3) node[above] {$y$};
\node[circle,draw=blue, fill=blue, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (-2,7) {};
\node[left=1pt of {(-2,7)}, blue, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$A(-2,7)$};
\node[circle,draw=blue, fill=blue, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (7,-5) {};
\node[right=1pt of {(7,-5)}, blue, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$C(7,-5)$};
\node[circle,draw=black!30!green, fill=black!30!green, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (-3,0) {};
\node[above left=1pt of {(-3,0)}, black!30!green, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$B_1(-3,0)$};
\node[circle,draw=red, fill=red, inner sep=0pt,minimum size=5pt] (b) at (9,-16) {};
\node[right=1pt of {(9,-16)}, red, outer sep=2pt,fill=none] {$B_2(9,-16)$};
\draw[-,blue] (-2,7) -- (7,-5);
\draw[-,black!30!green] (-2,7) -- (-3,0);
\draw[-,black!30!green] (7,-5) -- (-3,0);
\draw[-,red] (-2,7) -- (9,-16);
\draw[-,red] (7,-5) -- (9,-16);
\end{tikzpicture}​
 
  • #6
This is simpler. I like your new idea, thanks !
 

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