Angle between two tangent lines

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the angle between two tangents by using the derivatives of the equations. The first equation has a derivative of 2x - 4, while the second equation has a derivative of 4 - 2x. It is mentioned that at x = 4, there is a "cusp" and technically no derivative. The concept of the derivative representing the tangent of the angle the curve makes with the horizontal is also mentioned. It is noted that this is usually taught in Calculus and trigonometry.
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Homework Statement



http://www.xtremepapers.com/Edexcel/Advanced%20Level/Mathematics/Subject%20Sorted/C3/Elmwood%20Papers/Elmwood%20B.pdf

Question 8(b)

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I found both values of dy/dx for BOTH EQUATIONS

y = x2 - 4x → 2x - 4
y = |4x - x2| → |4 - 2x| could someone please claify this, I have never differentiated a modulus before

Thus the two gradients of the lines are 4 and -4 BUT HOW DO I GO ON TO FIND THE angle between the tangents??
 
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[itex]|4x- x^2|= |x(4- x)|[/itex] and is equal to [itex]4x- x^2[/itex] for x between 0 and 4 but equal to [itex]x^2- 4x[/itex] for x< 0 or x> 4. That is, its derivative if 4- 2x for x between 0 and 4 and equal to 2x- 4 for x< 0 or x> 4. At x= 4, there is a "cusp" so technically, there is no derivative. Of course, you are interested in the curve between 0 and 4 so you really want [itex]\lim_{x\to 4^-} 4- 2x= -4[/itex] as you say.

To find the angle between the lines remember that the derivative is the tangent of the angle the curve makes with the horizontal. And that
[tex]tan(\theta- \phi)= \frac{tan(\theta)- tan(\phi)}{1+ tan(\theta)tan(\phi)}[/tex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
To find the angle between the lines remember that the derivative is the tangent of the angle the curve makes with the horizontal

I never knew this
is this A-level maths or beyond?
could you please explain why this is true?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
To find the angle between the lines remember that the derivative is the tangent of the angle the curve makes with the horizontal.
jsmith613 said:
I never knew this.
is this A-level maths or beyond?
could you please explain why this is true?
It's usually taught in Calculus when you first learn about derivatives representing the slope of the tangent line.

It's often taught in trigonometry that the slope of a line is equal to the tangent of the angle the line makes with the x-axis.
 
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thanks for this :)
I will note this rule!
 

FAQ: Angle between two tangent lines

What is the angle between two tangent lines?

The angle between two tangent lines is the angle formed between the two lines as they touch a curve at the same point. The tangent lines are perpendicular to the curve at that point, and the angle between them is measured in degrees or radians.

How do you find the angle between two tangent lines?

To find the angle between two tangent lines, you first need to determine the slopes of the lines at the point of tangency. Then, you can use the formula tan(θ) = |(m1 - m2) / (1 + m1m2)|, where m1 and m2 are the slopes of the tangent lines. Finally, take the inverse tangent of this value to find the angle in degrees or radians.

Can the angle between two tangent lines be negative?

No, the angle between two tangent lines cannot be negative. It is always a positive value between 0 and 90 degrees, or 0 and π/2 radians. This is because the tangent function is always positive in these intervals, so the inverse tangent will always yield a positive angle.

What is the relationship between the angle between tangent lines and the curvature of a curve?

The angle between tangent lines and the curvature of a curve are inversely related. This means that as the angle between tangent lines increases, the curvature of the curve decreases, and vice versa. This relationship can be seen in the formula for curvature, where K = 1/r, and r is the radius of curvature. As the angle between tangent lines approaches 90 degrees, the radius of curvature becomes infinitely large, indicating a flat curve with no curvature.

Can the angle between two tangent lines be greater than 90 degrees?

No, the angle between two tangent lines cannot be greater than 90 degrees. This is because the angle is formed between two lines that are perpendicular to the curve at the point of tangency. Perpendicular lines always form a 90 degree angle, so the angle between tangent lines cannot exceed this value.

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