Another Simple Rope Tensions Question

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In summary: Sorry for the confusion. To clarify, there are two tensions acting on the wire: one on each side of the bird's landing point. The weight of the bird is balanced by the vertical components of these tensions, which is why we use the cosine function in the equation "mg = 2*T*cosθ". Your approach using trigonometric functions and finding the angle is correct, but you need to account for both tensions in your calculation.
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Homework Statement



A 4.0kg magpie (bird) flies towards a very tight plastic wire on a clothes line. The wire is perfectly horizontal and is stretched between poles 4.0m apart. The magpie lands on the centre of the wire, depressing it by a vertical distance of 4.0cm. What is the magnitude of the tension in the wire?

Homework Equations


W=mg
trignometric functions
W(x) = Wsin(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


This is off a textbook question, and their answer was 1000N. I got 0.8N =='

I had the following steps:

- tan(θ) = 4/200
- θ = 1.15 degrees.
- W(x) = mgsin(1.15)
(where W(x) was the required component of weight, m = 4.0kg and g = 9.8ms^-2)
- W(x) = 4.0kg x 9.8 x sin(1.15) = 0.8N

What am i doing wrong? :(
Any help is appreciated.
 
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Hi amnestic, welcome to PF.
You have to resolve the tensions into two components.
And mg = 2*T*cosθ, where θ = (90 - 1.15) degrees.
 
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Thanks for the reply rl.blat,
two tensions?
I had a triangle, with the opposite as 2m and adjacent as 0.04m

Then I found the angle, which allowed me to find the hypothenuse (which is the "line" of force that I'm after)

I'm not sure what you mean by "mg = 2*T*cosθ" isn't mg = 4.0 x 9.8?

PS: I also changed the angel within the triangle for the working out of this post, as compared to my first post. so its a bit different now.
 
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After depression of the wire due to landing of the bird at the mid point, two segments of the wire are stretched producing tension in the segments. In the equilibrium condition, the weight of bird is balanced by the vertical components of the tensions.
So "mg = 2*T*cosθ".
 

FAQ: Another Simple Rope Tensions Question

What is rope tension?

Rope tension is the force applied to a rope in order to keep it tight and prevent slack or movement.

How is rope tension calculated?

Rope tension can be calculated by multiplying the weight of the object being lifted by the gravitational acceleration and the length of the rope.

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Why is rope tension important?

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