Any tips on improper integrals? (also, question)

In summary, the conversation discusses fear and difficulty with improper integrals and finding patterns in solving them. The speaker shares their plan of attack for solving an example problem and a simpler method for solving a standard improper integral. They also discuss a separate integral and the use of comparison to determine if it converges or diverges. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the intuition and function of the integrand.
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FancyNut
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Those things scare me.

A lot.


They look tame and not so im-proper when you only evaluate the integral and take the limit... then you see that section in your texts titled " Comparison of improper integrals."

I've looked at a few google links but all problems still seem so different to me-- I can't pin down a pattern I can use. I know about the comparison test ( 0 <= f(x) <= g(x) ) for example but applying it is kinda.. hard.

I know I'll be able to do HW but I don't know if I'll master the subject to do a problem like this for example:

Find the value of a (to three decimal places) that makes

[tex]\int a e^u dx = 1[/tex]


limits are negative infinity to positive infinity...

btw there is no "u" in the problem... I can't use this tex thing properly so here u is = -x^2/2 that's the negative of the square root of x over 2...

Now how do I even start such a problem? My plan of attack:

take out a outside and break the integral into two parts (with limits as negative infinity to b for the first integral and b to infinity for the second integral) and evaluate the limits... I'm guessing it converges. I'll set that value it coverges to equal to 1 and solve for an a that will somehow transform that value to 1...

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Well, basically this is one of those standard improper integrals which you'll just hve to look up in some handbook of integrals.
[tex]\int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx=\sqrt\frac{\pi}{\lambda}}[/tex]

I don't think they'll ask you to show this on your own.

It's not that hard though, once you know how.
-First show that the integal converges. Call the value I.
-Find I^2 and write it as a double integral.
-Use a change of variables (should be easy to see which change).
-Evaluate the integral.
 
  • #3
I've got another question...

[tex]\int 1/ ( t + 1 )^2 [/tex]

the limits are -1 and 5..

the trouble spot is -1 but I don't know how to deal with it by comparison... I know I'll replace it with b and take the limit to b of that integral but they want me to do it with comparison and see if it coverges or diverges..


-Find I^2 and write it as a double integral.
-Use a change of variables (should be easy to see which change).

I'm not sure what you mean by those two steps. Do you mean I^2/2 ?
 
  • #4
FancyNut said:
I've got another question...

[tex]\int 1/ ( t + 1 )^2 [/tex]

the limits are -1 and 5..

the trouble spot is -1 but I don't know how to deal with it by comparison... I know I'll replace it with b and take the limit to b of that integral but they want me to do it with comparison and see if it coverges or diverges..
If you picture the graph. What does your intuition say about the integral?
If you want to do it by comparison. What function does the integrand look like?

About the other integral. What I meant was:
[tex]I=\int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx[/tex]
[tex]I^2=\int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-\lambda x^2}dx\int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-\lambda y^2}dy=\int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty} \int \limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}e^{-\lambda(x^2+y^2)}dxdy[/tex]
You can solve this double integral by substitution and then find I.
 
  • #5
Galileo said:
If you picture the graph. What does your intuition say about the integral?
If you want to do it by comparison. What function does the integrand look like?

Well it explodes and goes to infinity at -1...

It looks like

[tex] \int 1/t^2 dt[/tex]
 

FAQ: Any tips on improper integrals? (also, question)

What is an improper integral?

An improper integral is an integral that does not have a finite value because at least one of the bounds of integration is infinite or the integrand is undefined at one or more points in the interval of integration.

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Some common types of improper integrals include integrals with infinite limits of integration, integrals with unbounded integrands, and integrals with discontinuous integrands.

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To evaluate improper integrals, you can use a variety of techniques such as the limit definition of the integral, comparison test, or the method of partial fractions. It is important to identify which type of improper integral you are dealing with and choose the appropriate method for evaluation.

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