Applied Physics BS going into Biophysics PhD

[phystron]

Hi,
So I am currently interested in attaining an advanced degree in Biophysics (preferably a PhD) but have half a year before I start applying to programs since I have already graduated. I dot want to waste the extra time I have and will be seeking an appropriate internship meanwhile. I will have access to a good community college also.

My question is: what classes should I take to bolster my transcripts? I have not had any biology, but are there other classes I should look for? Computer programming? Organic chem? (I also have a BA in Math)

One other question: I don't have a particularly high gpa, would it be more advisable to apply for MS programs for a better chance at being accepted?

Thanks very much for any/all advice.

 

[jbrussell93]

Based on what I've found about the field of biophysics, most programs don't even offer a masters degree. Basically, the only way to get a masters at these schools is to not finish your PhD... they do this so that even if you do not make it all the way though the program, you will still have something to show for it.

As far as classes to take, I can pass on some advice which I was given to me by a biophysics professor at my school (who's in the physics department). She did not have ANY type of biology as an undergrad. In grad school, her PhD adviser told her that she did not need to take any biology classes even in graduate school because "one could just crack open a biology book and read a chapter to find out how a protein in made. You can learn what you need to know in 30 minutes instead of wasting time on a formal class." Now, I don't know if I really agree with this outlook because in order to be successful in biophysics, you have to know what the interesting biological questions are in the first place...

When I asked her what classes I should take (as an undergrad), she said take absolutely no biology whatsoever, but instead biochemistry. Also, at least 1 semester of organic would be good although not required... it seems as though there is no such thing as too much chemistry. Also, when asking about CS classes, I was told that they are not really necessary. Programming can be picked up in the lab, and you will not be doing much complex programming anyway unless that is your focus, in which case you would be a CS major anyway. Though, it couldn't hurt to know a little programming

Sorry for rambling on... it's getting late :zzz:

I know this was all rather broad, but I hope it helped!

 

[phystron]

Thanks a lot for the input! Broader the better, just trying to get as much information as possible on the subject. My school did not offer any sort of biophysics or professors who could give advice on the subject. I am also toying with the idea of bioinformatics but don't know if I could give up physics.

 

[jbrussell93]

I am also toying with the idea of bioinformatics but don't know if I could give up physics.

Interestingly, I've been thinking the same thing. Though, I like to say "computational biology" instead of "bioinformatics" just because bioinformatics seems more focused on statistics from what I understand - such as statistical genomics, etc. Computational biology certainly uses statistics to some degree as well but is more broad and may involve nonlinear ODE's and other tools. Also, computer modeling seems to be a larger part of "computational [insert interest here]".

I'm mostly interested in computational neuroscience, but I could see myself getting excited about any field of biology, really. At the moment, I am going for a BS in Biological Engineering just to keep my options open but math and physics will certainly give you the flexibility to choose computational OR biophysics.

Good luck!

 

[Matrix0]

As a scientist with experience in both applied physics and biophysics, I can offer some advice on your plans for further education. First and foremost, I would highly recommend taking classes in biology, as it is a fundamental subject in biophysics. Other classes that would be beneficial to your transcript include computer programming and organic chemistry, as both are important in understanding the principles and techniques used in biophysics research. Additionally, since you already have a BA in Math, I would suggest taking some advanced math courses to further strengthen your analytical skills, which are crucial in biophysics research.

In terms of your GPA, it is important to note that while it is a factor in admissions, it is not the only one. Admissions committees also consider research experience, letters of recommendation, and personal statements. If you have a strong research background and can demonstrate your passion for biophysics in your application, it is still possible to be accepted into a PhD program with a lower GPA. However, if you are concerned about your chances of getting into a PhD program, pursuing a master's degree first can be a good option. It will not only give you a chance to improve your GPA, but also gain more research experience and strengthen your application for a PhD program in the future. Ultimately, the decision between applying for a master's or a PhD program should depend on your personal goals and circumstances.

In terms of internships, I would recommend seeking opportunities in biophysics research labs or companies. This will not only give you hands-on experience in the field, but also help you network with professionals and potentially lead to letters of recommendation for your graduate school applications. Additionally, taking advantage of the resources at your community college, such as workshops or seminars on biophysics, can also be beneficial in expanding your knowledge and understanding of the field.

Overall, my advice would be to focus on gaining a strong foundation in biology and other relevant subjects, gaining research experience, and showcasing your passion for biophysics in your application. Best of luck in your academic pursuits!