Approximation and Logarithm Problem

Additionally, you want to subtract the actual value from the estimated value.In summary, the given conversation discusses the use of a tangent line to estimate a function at certain points and finding the error of approximation. The tangent line can be used to approximate the function near the point of tangency by evaluating the tangent line at that point. The error of approximation is the magnitude of the difference between the approximation and the actual value of the function. To find the error of approximation, one can use the absolute value of the difference between the actual value and the estimated value.
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I just need some help with some basic questions I can't remember from a long time ago, just started up school again...

1) Given a function f(x) = (quadratic on top)/(quadratic on bottom)
When at x=1, I am given a tangent line to the function f(x), and also given the equation of the tangent line. How can I use the tangent line to estimate f(any number). Also how to find error of approximation within each of these 3 points?

2) Solve for x: ln(7−2x)−4lnx=ln8 ( I changed values so I have to do work by myself after I understand this)
 
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1) The equation of the tangent line is going to look like any line: $y=mx+b$. You can use the tangent line to approximate the function near the point of tangency, by simply evaluating the tangent line there.

2. Use some of the rules of logarithms to get a single logarithm on both sides. What do you get?
 
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Using tangent line to estimate, error of approx.?

I'm not going to post the question because I think that's defeating the purpose of me doing it on my own...

Say you have f(x) = (quadratic) / (quadratic), so (x^2 + x + 1) / ( x^2 + x + 1)...

I am given the tangent line at the point x = 1, how do I use this tangent line to estimate say f(0.5), f(0.6), f(0.65)? Also how can I find error of approximation at each of the 3 points? What is error of approximation?
 
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The example you give is a constant function, since the numerator and denominator are the same. Let us consider the function:

\(\displaystyle f(x)=\frac{2x^2-3x+1}{x^2+x+1}\)

The tangent line at $x=1$ is then:

\(\displaystyle y=\frac{x-1}{3}\)

A plot of the function and the tangent line is given here:

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As mentioned by Ackbach:

You can use the tangent line to approximate the function near the point of tangency, by simply evaluating the tangent line there.

The error $E(x)$ then is simply the magnitude of the difference between the approximation (the value of the tangent line for a particular $x$) and the actual value of the function, hence:

\(\displaystyle E(x)=\left|f(x)-y(x) \right|\)
 

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So am I supposed to plug the f(whatever) into the tangent line, which will give me the estimation of the number, then I just find the differences between all 3 intervals?
 
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To address the question (which has now been replaced) of how to find the derivative of a rational function consisting of a quadratic divided by a quadratic

One could use the quotient rule as follows:

Given:

\(\displaystyle f(x)=\frac{ax^2+bx+c}{dx^2+ex+f}\)

then:

\(\displaystyle f'(x)=\frac{\left(dx^2+ex+f \right)(2ax+b)-\left(ax^2+bx+c \right)(2dx+e)}{\left(dx^2+ex+f \right)^2}=\frac{(ae-bd)x^2+2(af-cd)x+(bf-ce)}{\left(dx^2+ex+f \right)^2}\)

For the replacement questions:

For $x$ near 1, we may use:

\(\displaystyle f(x)\approx y(x)\)

And the error is the magnitude of the difference between the approximation and the true value.
 
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Sorry, I edited that last question to a new one... Forgot I was given the tangent line hahah!
 
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Ok, I got it all except for the error of approximation...

I have f(x) = 0.25, f(x) = 0.85, f(x) = 0.925. This is all in my actual questions.

So if I plug in my given decimal numbers into the tangent line, I get those ^^^^^

If I plug in my same decimal numbers that I plugged into the tangent line into the very first eqn, I got -4 for the first one, etc etc. So this just means the E(x) = 4.25?
 
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phrox said:
Ok, I got it all except for the error of approximation...

I have f(x) = 0.25, f(x) = 0.85, f(x) = 0.925. This is all in my actual questions.

So if I plug in my given decimal numbers into the tangent line, I get those ^^^^^

If I plug in my same decimal numbers that I plugged into the tangent line into the very first eqn, I got -4 for the first one, etc etc. So this just means the E(x) = 4.25?

Typically, at least from what I have seen, an error is defined as the magnitude of the difference. This means you want to use the absolute value of the difference.
 

FAQ: Approximation and Logarithm Problem

What is approximation and why is it useful in scientific calculations?

Approximation is the process of finding an estimate or a close value to an exact or unknown quantity. It is used in scientific calculations to simplify complex problems and obtain quick and practical solutions.

How do logarithms help in solving approximation problems?

Logarithms are used to transform exponential equations into simpler linear equations, making it easier to approximate the values. They also help in reducing the number of digits in large numbers, making them more manageable for calculations.

Can approximation techniques be used in all types of scientific problems?

No, approximation techniques are only suitable for certain types of problems, such as those involving large numbers, complex equations, or non-linear relationships. In some cases, exact solutions are necessary for accurate results.

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