Are complex logarithm rules the same as real number rules?

In summary, there are some exceptions when dealing with complex numbers and logarithms. For real numbers, log(z)=-log(1/z) is true for positive real numbers. However, when dealing with complex numbers, one may need to add 2\pi i at times due to branch choosing issues. It is important to be careful when using familiar calculation rules as there may be unexpected results.
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daudaudaudau
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Hi.

I know that for real numbers log(z)=-log(1/z)

is this also true in general for complex numbers?
 
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yup. no promises about the log of 0 or [itex]\infty[/itex].
 
  • #3
But one might need to add [itex]2\pi i[/itex] somewhere sometimes because of some branch choosing issues.
 
  • #4
If you choose to use a branch

[tex]
\log(z) = \log(|z|) + i\textrm{arg}(z),\quad 0\leq \textrm{arg}(z) < 2\pi
[/tex]

then for example

[tex]
\log(-1+i) = \log(\sqrt{2}) + \frac{3\pi i}{4}
[/tex]

and

[tex]
\log(\frac{1}{-1+i}) = \log(-\frac{1}{2}(1+i)) = \log(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}) + \frac{5\pi i}{4}.
[/tex]

So you've got

[tex]
\log(-1+i) + \log(\frac{1}{-1+i}) = 2\pi i,
[/tex]

in contradiction with your equation. But if you choose the branch so that

[tex]
-\pi < \textrm{arg}(z) \leq \pi,
[/tex]

then you've got

[tex]
\log(-1+i) + \log(\frac{1}{-1+i}) = 0,
[/tex]

as your equation stated. Even with this choice of branch still, for example,

[tex]
\log(-1) + \log(\frac{1}{-1}) = 2\pi i,
[/tex]

so actually...

daudaudaudau said:
Hi.

I know that for real numbers log(z)=-log(1/z)

for positive real numbers! :wink:
 
  • #5
jostpuur said:
But one might need to add [itex]2\pi i[/itex] somewhere sometimes because of some branch choosing issues.


The essentail point is than ln(1)= [itex]2n\pi i[/itex] with n being any integer.
 
  • #6
Thank you for the answers and examples. I understand it much better now.
 
  • #7
You probably remember the trick where one does something like this:

[tex]
1 = \sqrt{1} = \cdots = -1
[/tex]

with imaginary units. The examples I gave are very similar in nature. Most of the time, a blind use of familiar calculation rules might seem to work, but you never know when something tricky surprises you, if you are not careful.
 

FAQ: Are complex logarithm rules the same as real number rules?

What is a complex logarithm?

A complex logarithm is a mathematical function that maps a complex number onto another complex number. It is the inverse function of the exponential function and is expressed as logb(z), where z is a complex number and b is the base of the logarithm.

What are the basic rules for evaluating complex logarithms?

The basic rules for evaluating complex logarithms include:

  • The logarithm of a product is equal to the sum of the logarithms of the individual factors.
  • The logarithm of a quotient is equal to the difference of the logarithms of the numerator and denominator.
  • The logarithm of a power is equal to the exponent multiplied by the logarithm of the base.
  • The logarithm of a complex number is equal to its magnitude (absolute value) plus the logarithm of its argument (angle).
  • The logarithm of 1 is equal to 0.

Can complex logarithms have multiple solutions?

Yes, complex logarithms can have multiple solutions due to the periodic nature of complex numbers. This means that there are infinitely many values that satisfy the equation logb(z) = w, where w is a complex number and b is the base of the logarithm.

How are complex logarithms used in real-world applications?

Complex logarithms have various applications in fields such as engineering, physics, and statistics. They are used to model growth rates, calculate the decibel scale in sound engineering, and represent complex numbers in polar form for easier calculations.

Are there any special cases or exceptions to complex logarithm rules?

Yes, there are a few special cases and exceptions to complex logarithm rules. For example, the natural logarithm of a negative real number is undefined, as there is no real number that can be raised to a power to give a negative result. Additionally, the logarithm of 0 is undefined as any number raised to the power of 0 is equal to 1.

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