Are electric cars over engineered?

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In summary, the debate over whether electric cars are over-engineered revolves around their complex systems and advanced technologies that enhance performance, safety, and efficiency. Critics argue that excessive engineering can lead to higher costs, complicate maintenance, and create challenges in manufacturing. Proponents contend that these innovations are necessary for optimal functionality and sustainability, ultimately benefiting consumers and the environment. The balance between innovation and practicality remains a key consideration in the evolution of electric vehicles.
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I can remember sliding down the hill on a sled, could a slipper car be made using two tracks and soapy water inside with a tube with a slit on top to hook a slip stop the body of a car with no wheels.
Why are cars so over engineered? A sled sliding down a set of tracks is much simpler than wheels. An aluminum tube with a slider fitted trough an open slit on top could be driven with a ,three phase coil built into the slider, to drive it forward or to stop. Three phase electric current from a power station would be inside each of three tubes. I slipped when going through the garage door and there wasn't hardly any friction from the slide. Programs from inside the car would would automatically send the car in the selected direction
 
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Because cars that fail and kill people don't sell well? :wink:

More on-point: what does "a sled sliding down a set of tracks" and "an aluminum tube with a slider fitted trough an open slit" have to do with an automobile that can carry 4 passengers and their gear 300 miles, affordably, in comfort and safety?
 
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Robotrium said:
A sled sliding down a set of tracks is much simpler than wheels.
One of the most important features of cars is that they can go (almost) anywhere, without the need of laying tracks first.

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...there wasn't hardly any friction from the slide.
Let's talk about brakes, then...

Robotrium said:
Why are cars so over engineered?
Why shoes are so over engineered? You could just walk barefoot. Simplest thing in the world, still in use after some 100k years.
 
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are electric cars over engineered?
Electric cars are not over-engineered. They are built to meet the regulations, all for a price that will capture sufficient market share.
What sort of troll are you?
 
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I've heard that the roads here in California are maintained pretty well compared to some other states, yet I am still hitting potholes and seeing lanes closed for maintenance frequently. Who do you think will build your aluminum tubes? How much will they cost compared to wheels? How well will they work when they are damaged? Who will fix them? Who will pay for it, you through higher taxes?

Do you really think you've discovered a solution that none of the big automakers or governments have thought of? I'll give you 10 out of 10 points for self esteem, but I wouldn't hire you for an engineering job.

BTW: you might want to read about Maglev trains. They are real and sort of cool, IMO. Although they'll never replace all of the cars.
 
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Sadly, your suggestion of using sliding rails would be too costly and disrupt existing systems of transportation.

Its akin to the issue of burying power lines vs using poles and power lines strung overhead. The burying version costs 2x more per mile than does stringing lines overhead. Its why modern subdivision housing may use underground cables to avoid unsightly lines but elsewhere poles and stringing lines are used.

https://homeguide.com/costs/cost-to-run-power

For some municipalities, earthquakes are frequent enough that burying cables is not an option.
 
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A sled sliding down a set of tracks is much simpler than wheels. An aluminum tube with a slider fitted trough an open slit on top could be driven with a ,three phase coil built into the slider, to drive it forward or to stop. Three phase electric current from a power station would be inside each of three tubes. Programs from inside the car would would automatically send the car in the selected direction
This is over-engineering! Or, trolling? One of the two.
 
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An aluminum tube with a slider fitted trough an open slit on top could be driven with a ,three phase coil built into the slider, to drive it forward or to stop. Three phase electric current from a power station would be inside each of three tubes.
This is not enough to qualify as an idea. In order to be an idea, you need to:
1) Sketch up a system
and
2) Do some calculations to estimate sizes of tubes, amount of copper wire, amount of power required, speeds, and traffic capacity.
and
3) Compare to the existing system of cars on roads to show relative advantages and disadvantages of each system

That's enough entertainment for today, so this thread is locked.
 
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FAQ: Are electric cars over engineered?

Are electric cars over-engineered compared to traditional cars?

Electric cars are often perceived as over-engineered due to their advanced technology and numerous features. However, this engineering is essential for optimizing performance, safety, and efficiency. The complexity is necessary to ensure that electric vehicles (EVs) can meet the demands of modern transportation while providing a sustainable alternative to traditional internal combustion engine vehicles.

Do electric cars have more features than necessary?

While it may seem that electric cars come with an abundance of features, many of these are designed to enhance user experience, safety, and efficiency. Features like regenerative braking, advanced driver-assistance systems, and sophisticated battery management systems are integral to the functionality and longevity of EVs. Therefore, rather than being unnecessary, these features are crucial to the overall performance and sustainability of electric cars.

Are the costs of electric cars driven up by over-engineering?

The initial costs of electric cars can be higher than traditional cars due to the advanced technology and materials used. However, these costs are often offset by lower running and maintenance costs over the vehicle's lifespan. Additionally, as technology advances and economies of scale are achieved, the prices of electric cars are expected to decrease, making them more accessible without compromising on engineering quality.

Is the complexity of electric cars a barrier to their adoption?

The complexity of electric cars can be a barrier to some consumers, particularly those who are unfamiliar with the technology. However, manufacturers are continually working to make EVs more user-friendly and to educate consumers about their benefits. As infrastructure improves and more people become familiar with electric vehicles, the perceived complexity is likely to diminish, encouraging wider adoption.

Do electric cars require more maintenance due to their engineering?

Despite their advanced engineering, electric cars generally require less maintenance than traditional internal combustion engine vehicles. EVs have fewer moving parts, no oil changes, and less wear and tear on components like brakes due to regenerative braking. While the technology is advanced, it is designed to be durable and reliable, often resulting in lower maintenance requirements overall.

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