Are electrons smeared objects prior to measurement?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of an electron's position in quantum mechanics and how it is interpreted. It is mentioned that the electron's position is not completely defined until measured, and different interpretations have been proposed. Some describe it as a smeared object, while others argue that it has a definite position but follows a complex trajectory. The question of what the electron is doing when not measured is also discussed, with the conclusion that this is a matter of interpretation and not something that science can definitively answer.
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before measuring an electrons position, is it physically a smear,like a wave? Or is it just nothing?
 
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ajv said:
before measuring an electrons position, is it physically a smear,like a wave? Or is it just nothing?
It's not "nothing" but it has no defined position. I think "smear" is an English language word that doesn't really say what's going on.
 
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Doesn't it depend on which interpretation of quantum mechanics you adopt? For instance, the pilot wave approach says there is a particle the whole time, whose path is governed by the wave function. It's a particle with a crazy trajectory though, if I understand correctly - this is by no means my specialty!
 
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If you measure the position, then you know that it was there when you measured it.

If you measure its position again immediately afterwards, the odds are that you will find it somewhere very close to where it was (offset by ##v\Delta{t}## if it is moving at speed ##v## and you waited for time ##\Delta{t}## before you made the second measurement). The longer it is before you make that second measurement, the more likely it is that you will find it farther away from the expected position.

This situation is commonly described as the electron being "smeared out" but acquiring a definite position when it is measured. However, as Phinds points out, "smeared" is not exactly precise scientific language; and as Geofleur points out we aren't really talking about what and where the electron is, we're talking about the probability of finding the electron at a given position at a given time.
 
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I woulld argue that the question "what is it doing when we aren't measuring it" is not something science can answer. This comes up often more in quantum mechanics than classically, but it's really more about the domain of validity for scientific investigation than anything else.
 
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In QM you have the formalism and interpretations of that formalism. Everyone agrees on the formalism - its interpretations that are argued about - and there are a myriad of them. The formalism is silent about what's going on when not observed. Note the word - SILENT. It has no take one way or the other. Interpretations however have all sorts of takes that you can read about in a comparison between them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretations_of_quantum_mechanics

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As Geofleur says, it is a matter of interpretation. Certainly, there are circumstances under which one can consider an electron to be a smeared object before measurement, and the measurement of position to then collapse the wave function into something less smeared.
 

FAQ: Are electrons smeared objects prior to measurement?

1. What does it mean for electrons to be smeared prior to measurement?

Electrons are considered smeared objects because they do not have a defined location until they are observed. In quantum mechanics, electrons are described by a wave function that represents the probability of finding the electron at a certain location. This means that before measurement, the electron is spread out or "smeared" in space.

2. How does the concept of electron smearing relate to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?

The uncertainty principle states that it is impossible to know both the position and velocity of a particle with absolute certainty. This is because the act of measuring one property affects the other. In the case of electrons, their smeared nature is a manifestation of this principle as it is impossible to know their exact position until they are measured.

3. Is it possible to observe the smeared nature of electrons?

No, it is not possible to directly observe the smeared nature of electrons. This is because the act of measurement collapses the wave function and the electron is no longer smeared but exists at a specific location. However, scientists can indirectly see the effects of electron smearing through various experiments and observations.

4. Do all subatomic particles exhibit the same smeared behavior as electrons?

Yes, all subatomic particles, including protons, neutrons, and even larger objects like atoms, exhibit smeared behavior. This is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and applies to all particles that are described by a wave function.

5. Can the smeared nature of electrons be explained by classical physics?

No, the concept of electron smearing is a result of quantum mechanics and cannot be explained by classical physics. Classical physics describes particles as having a definite position and velocity at all times, which is not the case in the quantum world. Electron smearing is a unique phenomenon that is explained by the probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics.

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