Are Fx= -du/dx and Fx=e2/ 4\pi\epsilon0x2 Mathematically Similar?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the mathematical similarity between two equations and their application in calculating potential energy. The equations in question are the force between two point charges and the force acting on atoms in a structure. It is clarified that the potential energy can be found by integrating the force equation, and the confusion is resolved.
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im unsure about if two equations are mathematically similar whether they equal the same. ill give an example

Fx=e2/ 4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]0x2

is similar to Fx= -du/dx does the e2=-du

?

btw the pi and E are not raised to the power its just my inability to use latex =]
 
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matt_crouch said:
im unsure about if two equations are mathematically similar whether they equal the same. ill give an example

Fx=e2/ 4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]0x2
This looks like the force between two point charges.

is similar to Fx= -du/dx does the e2=-du
No. Why do you think these equations are mathematically similar?

btw the pi and E are not raised to the power its just my inability to use latex
That's because you're mixing latex and non-latex within an equation. Write the equation using only latex.
 
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when calculating the distance between atoms in a structure. in the lecture we used sodium chloride an the force acting on the to calculate the potential energy and therefore the energy used to break the bonds. so we intergrated the force between two points equation and calculated the potential energy
this is why I am getting confused
 
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Given the force, F(x), you can find the potential energy using F = -dU/dx. Thus:
U = - ∫F(x) dx
 
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ok i see. makes sense
thanks for clearing that up
cheers
 

FAQ: Are Fx= -du/dx and Fx=e2/ 4\pi\epsilon0x2 Mathematically Similar?

What is the meaning of Fx= -du/dx?

This equation represents the force exerted by a system as a function of the displacement of that system. It is used to calculate the force required to achieve a change in the energy of the system.

How is Fx= -du/dx related to energy?

This equation is derived from the concept of potential energy and how it changes as a result of displacement. The negative sign indicates that the force is in the opposite direction of the displacement, representing a decrease in potential energy.

Can Fx= -du/dx be used to calculate all types of forces?

This equation is specifically used to calculate conservative forces, which are forces that do not dissipate energy. It cannot be applied to non-conservative forces such as friction or air resistance.

How does e2=-du relate to the Fx= -du/dx equation?

The e2=-du equation is derived from Fx= -du/dx and represents the potential energy of a system at two different points. By taking the negative derivative of this equation, we can calculate the force required to move between these two points.

What is the importance of the Fx= -du/dx equation in science?

This equation is crucial in understanding the relationship between force and energy. It allows scientists to accurately calculate the force required to achieve a specific change in energy within a system, which has implications in many fields such as physics, engineering, and chemistry.

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