Are Initial Conditions Ignored in Solving Control Systems Problems?

In summary, the conversation is about solving a control systems problem by converting a difference equation into a transfer function. The initial conditions are assumed to be zero and the goal is to get the system into a state space representation using the z transform. The matrices involved are typically referred to as A, B, C, and D, but in this case, G and H are being used instead. This method is correct according to the textbook being referenced.
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Lancelot59
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I'm attempting to solve a control systems problem, however I'm stuck on the first step.

The system is specified with a difference equation:
[tex]y(k+2)+y(k+1)+0.16y(k)=u(k+1)+2u(k)[/tex]

So I need to convert this back onto the usual pulse transfer function form to use one of the standard methods of deriving the matrix.

The thing is I can't get to the transfer function. Due to the k shifts there are all of the initial condition constant terms such as z*y(0) that don't appear in the solutions at all.

Neither the problem or the solution specify that those conditions are zero. Are the initial conditions just being ignored, or am I missing something here?

Thanks!
 
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By definition, a transfer function assumes zero initial conditions.

What matrix? Are you looking for the z transform?
 
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rude man said:
By definition, a transfer function assumes zero initial conditions.

What matrix? Are you looking for the z transform?

I need to get the whole system into some form of state space equation.

So I was going to take the z transform of that difference equation, then take the zeros and poles of that z domain transfer function to get the G and H matrices of the state space representation.
 
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Yes that is a correct method

note: I have always referred to the state space matrices as A,B,C & D.
I am assuming G & H are the system dynamics and input effects matrices respectivly
 
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donpacino said:
Yes that is a correct method

note: I have always referred to the state space matrices as A,B,C & D.
I am assuming G & H are the system dynamics and input effects matrices respectivly

Yes. For reference I'm using the Discrete Time Controls systems textbook by Ogata.
 

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