Are My Partial Derivatives Correct in Finding the Equations of Motion?

In summary, the equations of motion for a particle moving in a D-dimensional flat space with the given Lagrangian are given by d/dt(∂L/∂vi) - ∂L/∂xi = 0, and when worked out, the resulting equation is ma = ka/xia+1. However, the partial with respect to xi was taken incorrectly, and when corrected and differentiated, the equation becomes -akx-a-1. The potential term in terms of the xi's is U = k/ra = k/root(x2i)a = k/xai = kx-ai, with an implied summation for r.
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Homework Statement



Find equations of motion (eom) of a particle moving in a D-dimensional flat space with the following Lagrangian

L = (1/2)mv2i - k/ra,

r = root(x2i), m,k,a are constants

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The Attempt at a Solution



The equations of motion are given by d/dt(∂L/∂vi) - ∂L/∂xi = 0

So, when I work all this out I get
ma = ka/xia+1

I have a feeling this isn;t correct though.

Am I doing the partials wrong?
 
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Yes, you're taking the partial with respect to xi incorrectly. Try writing out the potential term in terms of the xi's and differentiating.

Also why is a multiplying m? How did the exponent of r get over there?
 
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vela said:
Yes, you're taking the partial with respect to xi incorrectly. Try writing out the potential term in terms of the xi's and differentiating.

Also why is a multiplying m? How did the exponent of r get over there?

U = k/ra = k/root(x2i)a
= k/xai
= kx-ai

Differentiating this with respect to xi gives -akx-a-1


As for the last part; sorry, when I wrote a on the LHS I was referring to the second derivative of xi w.r.t. time
 
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Maybe_Memorie said:
U = k/ra = k/root(x2i)a
= k/xai
= kx-ai

Differentiating this with respect to xi gives -akx-a-1
How are you going from k/root(x2i)a to k/xai?

Are you saying, for instance, that [itex]\sqrt{x_1^2+x_2^2} = x_1+x_2[/itex]?

EDIT: Oh, I see why we're getting different answers. I think there's an implied summation: [tex]r=\sqrt{x_i^2} = \sqrt{x_i x_i} = \sqrt{\sum_i x_i^2}[/tex]
 
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Your approach is correct, but there may be a mistake in your calculation of the partial derivatives. Let's break it down step by step:

1. First, we need to find the partial derivative of L with respect to vi.

∂L/∂vi = mvi

2. Next, we need to find the partial derivative of L with respect to xi. To do this, we need to use the chain rule since xi appears in the denominator of the second term.

∂L/∂xi = -k/xi^2 * ∂(1/ra)/∂xi
= -k/xi^2 * (∂(1/ra)/∂r * ∂r/∂xi) [using chain rule]
= -k/xi^2 * (-1/a * 1/r^2 * ∂r/∂xi) [since ∂(1/ra)/∂r = -1/a * 1/r^2]
= k/xi^3 * ∂r/∂xi

3. Now, we need to find the partial derivative of r with respect to xi. This is simply equal to 1/xi.

∂r/∂xi = 1/xi

4. Substituting this back into our expression for ∂L/∂xi, we get:

∂L/∂xi = k/xi^3 * (1/xi)
= k/xi^4

5. Now, we can plug these expressions back into the equation for the equations of motion:

d/dt(mvi) - k/xi^4 = 0

This is the correct equation of motion for a particle moving in a D-dimensional flat space with the given Lagrangian. Hope this helps!
 

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