Are there gas bulbs with high off resistance at low breakdown voltages?

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In summary, Paul Lowrance is seeking recommendations for gas bulbs with breakdown voltages less than 150 volts and high off resistance of at least 20 Gohm. Bob S suggests using neon-filled miniature lamps with pigtail leads, while Paul Lowrance mentions using ultra clean NE-2 bulbs with pigtail leads for his research on excess energy detection. However, Bob S reminds Paul Lowrance to follow the PF Rules when posting and not to re-open a closed topic.
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Hi,

Any recommendations on gas bulbs with breakdown voltages less than 150 volts. Most importantly it must have high off resistance, at least 20 Gohm.

I've tested a few fluorescent starters. The best one so far was an old starter with 6 Gohm resistance up to its breakdown voltage of 107 volts. These starter bulbs usually have neon gas. Maybe there are bulbs with different gas that has higher off resistance at comparable breakdown voltages?

Thanks for any help. It's greatly appreciated!
Paul Lowrance
 
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Hi,

It was my mistake. It should be 20 *tera* ohms minimum, not 20 mega ohms. Maybe another type of gas might have that much resistance?

Regards,
Paul
 
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I knew of someone who used ultra clean NE-2 bulbs with pigtail leads in a negative resistance oscillator circuit to measure picoamp currents by putting a very small capacitor (50 pF?) in parallel and counting the time between avalanche pulses, but the last time I saw him he was unable to get NE-2's that had sufficiently low leakage. Get some and maybe you can make them work. See IPDIC chamber circuit here:

http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/surveymeters/ipdic.htm

Bob S.
 
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BTW, this topic is regarding my research. Please see the thread titled, "Excess energy detected from piezos & diodes"

A few minutes ago I just changed my account settings to give people access to my email address.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance
 
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PaulL said:
BTW, this topic is regarding my research. Please see the thread titled, "Excess energy detected from piezos & diodes"

A few minutes ago I just changed my account settings to give people access to my email address.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance

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1. What is the "gas bulbs - avalanche effect"?

The "gas bulbs - avalanche effect" refers to a phenomenon in which a gas-filled bulb experiences a sudden and rapid increase in current and voltage when a certain threshold is reached. This effect is caused by the ionization of the gas molecules in the bulb, which creates an avalanche of electrons and leads to a surge in electrical activity.

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