Area by washers and/or cylindrical shells: other than x,y

In summary, the conversation discusses rotating around something other than the x/y axis and provides two different methods of solving for the volume. The first method involves using the equation V= ⌠(between 0 and 1)π[1+x]^2 dx while the second method uses V= ⌠(between 0 and 1)2πx(x+1)dx. The conversation ends with a question regarding the discrepancy between the two answers and a suggestion to use the second method with respect to y.
  • #1
tsamocki
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What if you want to rotate around something other than the x/y axis?

For example:

Homework Statement



y=x, y=0, x=1, rotated around the line x=-1

Homework Equations



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or

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The Attempt at a Solution



V= ⌠(between 0 and 1)π[1+x]^2 dx

= π(1/3(x)^3+x^2+2x),x=0, x=1

=π((1/3)(1)^3+(1)^2+2(1))-0

= 10π/3

Shell method:

V= ⌠(between 0 and 1)2πx(x+1)dx

=2π((1/2)x^2+(1/3)x^3)x=1,x=0

=2π((1/2)+(1/3))-0

=2π(5/6)

=5π/3

Obviously the two answers do not match (i don't even know if i am correct on either); where am i going wrong?

Thanks in advance!
 
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  • #2
unless I am mistaken, if you're using the first equation you have to do it with respect to y...

and when you did it the second way, the expression inside of the integral is wrong.
 

FAQ: Area by washers and/or cylindrical shells: other than x,y

What is the formula for finding the area using washers and/or cylindrical shells?

The formula for finding the area using washers and/or cylindrical shells is A = 2π ∫ab(r(x) * h(x))dx, where r(x) is the radius of the washer or shell and h(x) is the height of the washer or shell.

How do I know when to use washers or cylindrical shells to find the area?

You can use washers when the cross-section of the solid is perpendicular to the axis of rotation, and cylindrical shells when the cross-section is parallel to the axis of rotation.

Can I use washers or cylindrical shells to find the volume of a solid?

Yes, washers and cylindrical shells can also be used to find the volume of a solid. The formula for volume is V = π ∫ab(r(x)^2 - h(x)^2)dx for washers, and V = 2π ∫ab(r(x) * h(x))dx for cylindrical shells.

What is the difference between washers and cylindrical shells?

Washers are used when the cross-section of the solid is perpendicular to the axis of rotation, while cylindrical shells are used when the cross-section is parallel to the axis of rotation. Additionally, washers have a hole in the middle, while cylindrical shells do not.

Can I use washers and cylindrical shells to find the surface area of a solid?

Yes, you can use the same formulas for finding the area of a solid using washers and cylindrical shells to also find the surface area. The only difference is that you would use the circumference instead of the radius in the formulas.

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