Area of a graph with polar coordinates

In summary, the conversation is about trying to plot the graph r = sin 3t and finding its area. The graph resembles a plane propeller with one downward pointing propeller and two pointing up-left and up-right. To find the area, the integral of (1/2 (sin 3t)^2 dt) from 0 to 2pi is used. The solution is 1/2( t/2 - 1/12 sin(6t) ) and the limits of integration are found by solving for \theta in sin3t=0. The starting point is 0 and the ending point is pi.
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I'm trying to plot the graph r = sin 3t and find its area.

This is how far I've gotten:

The graph looks like a plane propellor with one propellor pointing downward, and two pointing up-left / up-right, with the length of each equal to 1. Now to get the area...

I have to figure out where the graph reaches 0... which I'm not sure how to do (I solve sin3t = 0 and get t = 0, pi, 2pi ?? )...
or...
I can just get the area from 0 to 2pi... so i'll try that:

A = intergral of (1/2 (sin 3t)^2 dt) from 0 to 2pi

the solution is:
1/2( t/2 - 1/12 sin(6t) )

If I plug in 0 or 2pi into this and solve, the last term becomes 0 and I get a weird answer... what do I do?!?
 
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[tex]\frac 1 2\int_a^b r^2d\theta[/tex]

[tex]\sin\theta=0[/tex]

[tex]\theta=0, \ \pi, \ 2\pi[/tex]

So the first limit starts and ends from [tex][0,\pi][/tex] for [tex]\sin\theta[/tex], but you want [tex]\sin 3\theta[/tex], so [tex]3\theta=...[/tex]

Solve for [tex]\theta[/tex], that would be your first limit of integration, and just multiply by a "constant" that gets you the whole area.
 
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can you elaborate on what you wrote a bit?

sorry I'm just not sure how you got that theta = 0, pi, 2pi/3... since this last one does not equal 0 for sin(theta)

also 3*theta = inverse sin( 0, pi, etc.) = 0
therefore, 2pi/3 works here since it becomes 2pi and sin2pi = 0...
 
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Sorry! I was fixing latex and brain froze a bit and accidently put down 2pi/3. Should be 2pi as you said.

Anyways, you just want the starting point (obviously 0) and the ending point which it becomes 0 again for the first petal. You only need sint=0, which is 0-pi. Now find it for sin3t.
 
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hey i got it! sweet!
appreciate your help :)
 

FAQ: Area of a graph with polar coordinates

What is the formula for finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates?

The formula for finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates is A = (1/2)∫[a,b]r^2 dθ, where r is the distance from the origin to a point on the graph and θ is the angle between the positive x-axis and the ray connecting the origin to the point.

How do you determine the limits of integration for finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates?

The limits of integration for finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates are determined by the number of times the graph intersects the origin, with each intersection representing a new limit. These intersections can be found by setting the equation for the graph equal to zero and solving for θ.

Can the area of a graph with polar coordinates be negative?

No, the area of a graph with polar coordinates cannot be negative. This is because the formula for finding the area uses the absolute value of r^2, which ensures that the area will always be positive.

What is the difference between finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates and Cartesian coordinates?

The main difference between finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates and Cartesian coordinates is the method of integration. While Cartesian coordinates use rectangular integration, polar coordinates use polar integration, which involves integrating with respect to θ instead of x or y.

Are there any special cases to consider when finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates?

Yes, there are two special cases to consider when finding the area of a graph with polar coordinates. The first is when the graph intersects the origin, in which case the limits of integration must be adjusted accordingly. The second is when the graph has multiple loops or "petals", in which case the limits of integration will need to be broken up into smaller intervals to account for each loop.

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