Area Polar Graph Homework: Find Region's Area

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To find the area of the region defined by the polar equation r = 2 - sin(b), the integral can be set up as A = 1/2 ∫ (r)^2 db. The limits of integration can be determined from the graph, with suggestions to integrate from b = 0 to b = 2π or from b = π/2 to b = 3π/2 and double the result. There is some confusion regarding the validity of integrating over the full range, as a tutor suggested it was not possible, but the graph indicates otherwise. Ultimately, integrating from 0 to 2π is deemed appropriate based on the continuous nature of r(b) in that interval. The discussion emphasizes the importance of visualizing the graph to confirm integration limits.
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Homework Statement


Find the area of the region.
Interior of: r = 2 - sin(b)

Homework Equations



A = 1/2 ∫ (r)^2 dr

The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't have any idea how to approach this problem. I don't understand how to determine my limits of integration. The only part of the problem I have accomplished is finding that b = arcsin(2). Also, I have found that the graph of this equation makes a convex limacon.
 
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_N3WTON_ said:

Homework Statement


Find the area of the region.
Interior of: r = 2 - sin(b)

Homework Equations



A = 1/2 ∫ (r)^2 dr


The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't have any idea how to approach this problem. I don't understand how to determine my limits of integration. The only part of the problem I have accomplished is finding that b = arcsin(2). Also, I have found that the graph of this equation makes a convex limacon.
You should be able to figure out the integration limits from the graph. You could integrate from b = 0 to b = ##2\pi##. Alternatively, you could integrate from b = ##\pi/2## to b = b = ##3\pi/2## and double that result.
 
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Mark44 said:
You should be able to figure out the integration limits from the graph. You could integrate from b = 0 to b = ##2\pi##. Alternatively, you could integrate from b = ##\pi/2## to b = b = ##3\pi/2## and double that result.

ok so would my equation look something like ∫ [(1-sin(b))^2 db] with the limits of integration going from 0 to 2pi?
 
Looks good, provide b is the polar angle. Why don't you use LaTeX for typesetting formulas? It's no big deal to type it and it makes everything much easier to read and understand!
 
vanhees71 said:
Looks good, provide b is the polar angle. Why don't you use LaTeX for typesetting formulas? It's no big deal to type it and it makes everything much easier to read and understand!
I don't know how to use latex, nor do I know where to find it...sorry
 
Ok, I am confused about this problem now. The website for my calculus textbook offers a 24/7 tutoring service. When I asked the tutor about this problem he said I could not integrate from 0 to 2pi; however, he was also not sure how to do the problem. So can I safely assume that he was wrong about being unable to integrate from 0 to 2pi?
 
Well, could you post the full question? I don't know, why one shouldn't integrate over the full range of the angle, because r(b)=2-\sin b>0 for all b \in [0,2 \pi].
 
Yes, like this:
Code:
##\frac 1 2\int_{0}^{2\pi} (2-\sin\theta)^2d\theta##
which displays like this: ##\frac 1 2\int_{0}^{2\pi} (2-\sin\theta)^2d\theta##
 
_N3WTON_ said:
When I asked the tutor about this problem he said I could not integrate from 0 to 2pi; however, he was also not sure how to do the problem.
It doesn't give me a lot of confidence when someone tells me I can't do a problem a certain way, but then doesn't know how to do the problem.
_N3WTON_ said:
So can I safely assume that he was wrong about being unable to integrate from 0 to 2pi?
If you look at the graph, it's pretty obvious that you can integrate using those limits, regardless of what the tutor is saying.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Well, could you post the full question? I don't know, why one shouldn't integrate over the full range of the angle, because r(b)=2-\sin b>0 for all b \in [0,2 \pi].
I did post the full question.
 
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Mark44 said:
It doesn't give me a lot of confidence when someone tells me I can't do a problem a certain way, but then doesn't know how to do the problem.

If you look at the graph, it's pretty obvious that you can integrate using those limits, regardless of what the tutor is saying.
Thank you...my first instinct was to integrate from 0 to 2pi; however, the tutor swayed me lol...
 

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