Armature Diameter formula question

In summary, the conversation is about a course on electrical machine design and the equations provided by the professor for computing different values needed for a given specification. The equations are related to the length and diameter of the armature core, air gap density, output of armature, speed, number of poles, and a constant. The second equation is related to the voltage produced in the armature, while the first equation is related to power. The use of Gauss instead of Teslas in the equations may be due to the professor's preference for CGS units.
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so, I'm taking up a course on electrical machine design and our professor gave us the equations for computing the different values required for a given specification.

here is my problem:

given these two equations:

laD^2 = (W/N)(6.079x10^8)/(Byqr) --> eq. 1

and

la = pi(D)(r)/(pK) --> eq. 2

where la = length of armature core (inches)
D = diameter of armature core (inches)
r = ratio of pole arc to pole face
By = air gap density
W = output of armature (watts)
N = speed
p = number of poles
K = some constant ranging from 0.667 to 1

equation 1 came from

W = Z*Ec*Ic

where Z = total number of armature conductors
Ec and Ic = voltage and current on the conductor

Ec = 6.45(Bg)(la)(pi)(D)(r)(N)/60x10^8

where Bg = average flux density in the air gap under each pole (gauss)

and

Ic = q(pi)(D)/Z

where q = specific loading

substituting all Ec and Ic in W you can get equation 1.

and then you can solve for D by combining the two equations.

my question is where does the second equation came from??
 
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hmmm dc machines ? We need a 1930's tetbook. I'm away from home right now but will see if i can find a reference.

Meantime -
it's clear the second equation is related to voltage produced in the armature(e-Blv), and the first one to power... remember product of current and flux determines force(Lorentz) , and force X radius detremines torque, and torque X RPM is power... so the terms involved all seem at first glance to make sense.

In old days when we used Gauss instead of Teslas you had a 10^4 units adjustment term and i wager that's where your 10^8 comes from - cgs vs SI units... which does our professor use ?

old jim
 

FAQ: Armature Diameter formula question

What is the formula for determining armature diameter?

The formula for determining armature diameter is: D = (P * F * L * T) / (2 * N * B), where D is the diameter, P is the power rating, F is the frequency, L is the length of the armature, T is the torque, N is the number of poles, and B is the magnetic flux density.

How do I calculate the power rating for the armature?

The power rating for the armature can be calculated by multiplying the voltage by the current, or by using the formula P = VI, where P is the power, V is the voltage, and I is the current.

What is the significance of frequency in the armature diameter formula?

Frequency is a crucial factor in the armature diameter formula as it affects the speed of the motor and the number of rotations per minute. A higher frequency requires a larger diameter to accommodate the increased speed and torque.

How does the length of the armature affect the diameter?

The length of the armature has a direct impact on the diameter of the armature. A longer armature requires a larger diameter to maintain stability and prevent bending during operation.

Can the armature diameter formula be applied to all types of motors?

The armature diameter formula can be applied to most DC and AC motors, but it may not be accurate for specialized or unique motor designs. It is always best to consult the motor manufacturer for specific sizing and design requirements.

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