Asymptotic behaviour of 1st order ODE

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In summary, the conversation discusses a first order ODE with the goal of finding y'(\infty) and determining if there is an easy way to do so for certain forms of c(y). The speaker also mentions their ultimate goal of finding functions a, b, and c that will result in specific solutions at infinity. They clarify that y'(\infty) can be found by knowing a, b, and c beforehand and that V can be chosen as given. The conversation then shifts to discussing a physical law involving a wall force and damping force, and the importance of finding a solution where an object loses a given fraction of its velocity. The speaker also mentions possible confusion with variable names in the mathematical transformation.
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I have a first order ODE
[tex]
yy'=a(x)+b(x)c(y)
[/tex]
and all I want to know is [itex]y'(\infty)[/itex]. Is there an easy way to find out or at least for some special forms of [itex]c(y)[/itex]?

Eventually I'd like to find functions a, b, c such that there is a solution with [itex](x=\infty,y=-V)[/itex] [itex](x=\infty,y=V\alpha)[/itex] for any V where [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a given factor. Preferably with [itex]a(x)=-Ax^{-n}[/itex]
 
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If you know that [tex]y(\infty)=-V[/tex], so you know that [tex]y'(\infty)=[a(\infty)+b(\infty)c(-V)]/(-V)[/tex], you must know beforehand what are b,c,a are to find it.
 
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I can chose a, b, c as given. And V is basically whatever y' is in one solution.
The important point is that the other y' solution at infinity should be a given factor [itex]\alpha[/itex] of the first solution.
Maybe I should say where the problem came from. I basically want to find a physical law such that an object bouncing off a wall will lose a given part [itex]1-\alpha[/itex] of its velocity. So I have the wall force a and the damping force b which should both be concentrated at the wall only.
And [itex]yy'[/itex] is the force on the particle after a mathematical transformation.

Oh I just notice I might have mixed up the variables after the transformation...
I want to know (x,y) as given with the points. I don't need y'.
 
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FAQ: Asymptotic behaviour of 1st order ODE

What is an asymptotic behavior?

Asymptotic behavior refers to the long-term behavior of a system or function as a variable approaches a certain value, such as infinity. It describes how a system or function behaves as its input or output values become extremely large or small.

What does a first-order ODE represent?

A first-order ODE, or ordinary differential equation, is a mathematical equation that describes the relationship between a function and its derivatives. It represents a relationship between a function and its rate of change over time or space.

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Studying the asymptotic behavior of 1st order ODEs allows us to understand the long-term behavior of a system or function. This can help us make predictions about how a system will behave over time and can provide insight into the stability and sensitivity of the system.

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Some common methods for solving 1st order ODEs include separation of variables, substitution, and integrating factors. Other methods include the method of undetermined coefficients, variation of parameters, and Laplace transforms.

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