Atom position (coordinates) from symmetry

In summary, the ZrCuSiAs-type structure is a simple quaternary equiatomic structure with only eight atoms in the tetragonal unit cell. The positions of Zr, Cu, Si, and As atoms are reported, along with the space group being P4/nmm. The relationship between the image and the reported positions is explained, and tools such as MOLDEN or Avogadro can be used for visualization.
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Hi guys,
I need to write down the positions of all the atom in LaFeAsO unit cell:

nature07045-f1.2.jpg

Figure caption: "The quaternary equiatomic ZrCuSiAs-type structure is very simple, with only eight atoms in the tetragonal cell. The dashed lines represent a unit cell."

I also have these informations about ZrCuSiAs

Atom Posit x y z

Zr 2c 1/4 1/4 0.2246
Cu 2b 1/4 3/4 1/2
Si 2a 1/4 3/4 0
As 2c 1/4 1/4 0.6793


Space group: P4/nmm.

So...starting from the figure above is easy to get the coordinates of Fe and O atoms but what about Sm and As?
And what's the relationship between the image and the positions reported above (and note that the pictures reported in the article about ZrCuSiAs and the above one from nature are different! http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/3563/zrcusias.jpg" )

And last but not least...is there a tool to automate this process? Writing down all x,y,z is really boring!:)

Thanks
Pietro
 
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Ok, the two upper green balls are in the left and right faces, then b=0 and b=1. Both are at half face, a=1/2. And height c is 1/2 plus "x" were x you should find aplying trigonometrics. Maybe d Fe-As = SQROOT(2)*x
The lower green balls are almost the same a=1 a=0, b=1/2 c=(1/2)-x

And for the blue ones the same.
 
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Hi,
Have a look at this site
http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/FeS2.html

There are are some coordinates for writing x,y, and z values.
e.g., few are: cartesian, internal coordinates, and z-matrics.

May for visualization you can use MOLDEN or Avogadro (both are free)
 
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FAQ: Atom position (coordinates) from symmetry

1. What is atom position (coordinates) from symmetry?

Atom position (coordinates) from symmetry refers to the location of an atom in a molecule or crystal relative to the symmetrical elements present in the structure.

2. Why is atom position (coordinates) from symmetry important in scientific research?

Atom position (coordinates) from symmetry is important because it provides information about the arrangement and orientation of atoms in a molecule or crystal, which is crucial for understanding its physical and chemical properties.

3. How is atom position (coordinates) from symmetry determined?

Atom position (coordinates) from symmetry is determined through techniques such as X-ray crystallography, which involves bombarding a crystallized sample with X-rays and analyzing the diffraction pattern to determine the positions and orientations of the atoms.

4. What are some common symmetrical elements that can affect atom position (coordinates)?

Some common symmetrical elements that can affect atom position (coordinates) include mirror planes, rotational axes, and inversion centers.

5. How can knowing atom position (coordinates) from symmetry help in predicting the properties of a molecule or crystal?

Knowing atom position (coordinates) from symmetry can help in predicting the properties of a molecule or crystal by providing information about its symmetry, which is closely related to its physical and chemical properties. For example, a molecule with a high degree of symmetry may have a higher melting point due to stronger intermolecular forces.

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