Attenuation and Phase constant values in wave equation

In summary, the conversation discusses the wave equation in the form of $$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}=\gamma ^2\vec{E}$$ and the value of gamma when the media is lossless. The conversation also brings up a discrepancy in the form of the second term on the right side of the equation, with some sources writing it as ##-\omega^2 \mu \varepsilon \vec E## and others as ##j^2\omega^2\mu\epsilon\vec{E}(r)e^{-j\omega t}##.
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Attenuation and Phase constant values in wave equation
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Regarding wave equation we are faced with this form
$$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}=\gamma ^2\vec{E}$$
where
$$\gamma ^2=j\omega \mu \sigma -j\omega \mu\varepsilon $$
$$\gamma =\alpha +j\beta $$
where alpha and beta are attenuation and phase constants respectively. If we have a lossless media(where sigma =0), I need to obtain alpha and beta values:
My attempt:
$$\gamma ^2 =-j\omega \mu\varepsilon =>\gamma ^2=\omega \mu\varepsilon e^{\frac{-j\pi }{2}}=>\gamma=\sqrt{\omega \mu\varepsilon} e^{\frac{-j\pi }{4}}=>\gamma=\sqrt{\omega \mu\varepsilon}(C os(\frac{\pi }{4})+jSin(\frac{\pi }{4}))=>\alpha =\beta => \alpha \neq 0 $$

it means we have a loss value in the equation, However, if we set alpha=0 in the gamma variable all equations are correct. I need to prove alpha is equal to zero when sigma =0.
 
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Regarding wave equation we are faced with this form
$$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}$$

Are you sure that you wrote this correctly? I checked a couple of standard textbooks which write the second term on the right as ##-\omega^2 \mu \varepsilon \vec E## (no factor of ##j## and ##\omega## is squared).
 
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Yes i agree with @TSny, that term comes from $$\mu\epsilon\frac{\partial^2 \vec{E}(r,t)}{\partial t^2}$$ and assuming harmonic time dependence that is $$\vec{E}(r,t)=\vec{E}(r)e^{-j\omega t}$$ we get that it is equal to $$j^2\omega^2\mu\epsilon\vec{E}(r)e^{-j\omega t}$$
 
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FAQ: Attenuation and Phase constant values in wave equation

What is attenuation in the context of wave equations?

Attenuation refers to the gradual decrease in amplitude of a wave as it travels through a medium. This decrease is caused by the energy of the wave being dissipated or absorbed by the medium.

How is attenuation represented in the wave equation?

In the wave equation, attenuation is represented by the imaginary component in the complex exponential term. The real component represents the oscillatory behavior of the wave, while the imaginary component represents the attenuation.

What is the significance of the phase constant in the wave equation?

The phase constant, also known as the phase shift, is a measure of the amount by which a wave is shifted in time or space. It is influenced by factors such as the wavelength and frequency of the wave, and can affect the behavior of the wave as it propagates through a medium.

How do attenuation and phase constant values affect wave propagation?

The values of attenuation and phase constant can affect the amplitude, frequency, and speed of a wave as it travels through a medium. Higher attenuation values result in a faster decrease in amplitude, while larger phase constant values can cause a shift in the position or shape of the wave.

Can attenuation and phase constant values be controlled or manipulated?

Yes, attenuation and phase constant values can be controlled and manipulated through various techniques such as using different materials for the medium, adjusting the frequency or amplitude of the wave, or using external factors like temperature or pressure. These techniques can be used to optimize wave propagation for specific applications.

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