-b.2.2.26 Solve first order IVP and determine where minimum of solution occurs

In summary, the given conversation discusses the process of solving an initial value problem involving a separable ordinary differential equation. The final result is found to be y = tan(x(x+2)), with an explanation of how this result is derived.
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OK going to comtinue with these till I have more confidence with it
$$\dfrac{dy}{dx}=2 (1+x) (1+y^2), \qquad y(0)=0$$
separate
$$(1+y^2)\, dy=(2+2x)\, dx$$
 
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The ODE associated with this IVP is separable. I would next write:

\(\displaystyle \int_0^y \frac{1}{u^2+1}\,du=2\int_0^x v+1\,dv\)

And...GO!
 
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why would this need to be a u=v substitution?
do you just plug in y=0, x=0
 
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I changed the dummy variables of integration because I used the boundaries as the limits of the definite integrals. It's considered bad form to have the variable of integration in the limits. Using definite integrals removes the need for finding the constant of integration.

Suppose you have the initial value problem (IVP):

\(\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dx}=f(x)\) where \(\displaystyle y\left(x_0\right)=y_0\)

Now, separating variables and using indefinite integrals, we may write:

\(\displaystyle \int\,dy=\int f(x)\,dx\)

And upon integrating, we find

\(\displaystyle y(x)=F(x)+C\) where \(\displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}\left(F(x) \right)=f(x)\)

Using the initial condition, we get

\(\displaystyle y\left(x_0 \right)=F\left(x_0 \right)+C\)

Solving for \(C\) and using \(\displaystyle y\left(x_0\right)=y_0\), we obtain:

\(\displaystyle C=y_0-F\left(x_0 \right)\) thus:

\(\displaystyle y(x)=F(x)+y_0-F\left(x_0 \right)\)

which we may rewrite as:

\(\displaystyle y(x)-y_0=F(x)-F\left(x_0 \right)\)

Now, we may rewrite this, using the anti-derivative form of the fundamental theorem of calculus, as:

\(\displaystyle \int_{y_0}^{y(x)}\,dy=\int_{x_0}^{x}f(x)\,dx\)

Now, since the variable of integration gets integrated out, it is therefore considered a "dummy variable" and since it is considered good form not to use the same variable in the boundaries as we use for integration, we may switch these dummy variables and write:

\(\displaystyle \int_{y_0}^{y(x)}\,du=\int_{x_0}^{x}f(v)\,dv\)

This demonstrates that the two methods are equivalent.

Using the boundaries (the initial and final values) in the limits of integration eliminates the need to solve for the constant of integration, and I find it a more intuitive and cleaner approach to separable initial value problems.
 
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so...then,,,,
$$\arctan \left(y\right)=x^2+2x$$
then
$$y=\tan(x^2+2x)$$

there is no book answer to this:rolleyes:

ok sorry I am kinda lost
 
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$\arctan(y) = (1+x)^2 + C$

$y(0) = 0 \implies C = -1$

$y = \tan(x^2+2x)$
 
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how did you get..
$(1+x)^2 $
 
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karush said:
so...then,,,,
$$\arctan \left(y\right)=x^2+2x$$
then
$$y=\tan(x^2+2x)$$

there is no book answer to this:rolleyes:

ok sorry I am kinda lost
You aren't lost. You got the correct answer! :eek:

-Dan
 
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$\displaystyle \int 2(1+x) \, dx = (1+x)^2 +C$
 
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MarkFL said:
The ODE associated with this IVP is separable. I would next write:

\(\displaystyle \int_0^y \frac{1}{u^2+1}\,du=2\int_0^x v+1\,dv\)

And...GO!

Continuing, we have:

\(\displaystyle \int_0^y \frac{1}{u^2+1}\,du=2\int_1^{x+1} w\,dw\)

\(\displaystyle \arctan(y)=(x+1)^2-1=x(x+2)\)

\(\displaystyle y=\tan(x(x+2))\)
 

FAQ: -b.2.2.26 Solve first order IVP and determine where minimum of solution occurs

What is a first order IVP?

A first order IVP, or initial value problem, is a type of differential equation that involves finding a function that satisfies both a differential equation and an initial condition. The initial condition provides a starting point for the solution of the differential equation.

How do you solve a first order IVP?

To solve a first order IVP, you can use various methods such as separation of variables, integrating factors, or the method of undetermined coefficients. Each method involves manipulating the differential equation to isolate the dependent and independent variables and then integrating to find the solution.

What is the minimum of a solution to a first order IVP?

The minimum of a solution to a first order IVP is the smallest value that the solution takes on over a given interval. This can be found by taking the derivative of the solution and setting it equal to zero, then solving for the value of the independent variable at which the minimum occurs.

How do you determine where the minimum of a solution to a first order IVP occurs?

To determine where the minimum of a solution to a first order IVP occurs, you can take the derivative of the solution and set it equal to zero. Then, solve for the value of the independent variable at which the derivative is equal to zero. This value will correspond to the location of the minimum.

Can the minimum of a solution to a first order IVP occur at multiple points?

Yes, the minimum of a solution to a first order IVP can occur at multiple points if the solution has multiple local minima. In this case, the derivative of the solution will be equal to zero at each of these points, and the minimum will occur at each of these points.

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