B & E Waves: Symmetrical or Non-Symmetrical?

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In summary, B and E waves can be non-symmetrical in size and shape at close distances from the EM source and when propagating through an anisotropic medium. However, at long distances where they are seen as a flat wave approximation, they are typically illustrated as symmetric phase shifted oversimplified sine waves. The release of photons is not always involved in EM waves, as demonstrated by the example of combing hair. In this case, the movement of charge generates an EM wave without the release of photons. However, at a larger scale, the energy carried by the EM wave can be seen as a number of photons. The concept of a greater E field than B field may seem nonsensical, but it is possible at close distances
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B and E are typically illustrated in a symmetric phase shifted oversimplified sine wave(s).

Are the B and E waves ever non-symmetrical to one another? This seems to make no sense to me, as they induce one another.



Also EM waves do not always involve the release of photons, correct? I was once told the easiest way to make a Electromagnetic wave was to comb your hair(get a charge on comb), then wave the comb up and down. By definition this movement of charge generates an Electomagnetic wave, no photons released here as charge moves up and down, correct?

Thanks for any clarification!
 
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B and E are perpendicular, shifted in phase, as you said, etc. only at long distance from EM source, where you may see them as a propagating flat wave approximation. Closely to the antenna they may be related differently. They may also not be perpendicular if the wave propagates through anisotrobic medium (the one rotating polarisation, like glucose solution for visible light)

Of course, waving your comb you release billions of photons! Waving the comb you emit some EM wave (honestly: not a strong one...), which carries the energy. This energy may be seen as a number of photons.
Anyway, for such experiments classical Maxwellian electrodynamics seems to be much more suitable approach.
 
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Thanks! I originally had a EMP question regarding Greater E field than B field. This seemed to make no sense to me.

I actually should have said are B and E ever non-symmetrical in size and shape (under the curve). This would make no sense since one induces the other.
 
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I had this conversation with retired U.C.C.S. Physics Professor Bobby Bracewell last weekend. He thought Permeability of the medium could also create non-symmetrical waves. Any thoughts?
 
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I can confirm that B and E waves are typically illustrated as symmetric phase shifted oversimplified sine waves. However, it is important to note that in real-life scenarios, these waves can have complex and non-symmetrical shapes due to various factors such as interference, diffraction, and absorption.

Furthermore, B and E waves are always symmetrical to each other, as they are directly related and induce each other. Any differences in their shapes would be due to external influences, not inherent properties of the waves themselves.

In terms of your question about EM waves and the release of photons, it is true that not all EM waves involve the release of photons. In the example you provided, the movement of charge on the comb does generate an EM wave, but it does not necessarily involve the release of photons. Photons are only released when there is a change in the electric or magnetic fields, which can happen in various ways depending on the situation. In this case, the movement of charge on the comb is causing a change in the electric field, which in turn generates the EM wave. Therefore, photons are not necessarily involved in this process.

I hope this clarifies any confusion and provides a better understanding of B and E waves and EM waves in general.
 

FAQ: B & E Waves: Symmetrical or Non-Symmetrical?

What are B & E waves and how do they differ from other types of waves?

B & E waves are a type of electromagnetic wave that are commonly used in radio communications. They differ from other types of waves, such as light waves or sound waves, in that they have a longer wavelength and lower frequency.

Are B & E waves symmetrical or non-symmetrical?

B & E waves can be both symmetrical and non-symmetrical, depending on the specific characteristics of the wave. In general, symmetrical waves have equal amplitudes on both sides of their peak, while non-symmetrical waves have unequal amplitudes.

What factors determine whether a B & E wave is symmetrical or non-symmetrical?

The symmetry of a B & E wave is determined by the shape of the antenna used to create the wave. A symmetrical antenna, such as a dipole antenna, will produce a symmetrical B & E wave, while a non-symmetrical antenna, such as a loop antenna, will produce a non-symmetrical wave.

Why is it important to understand the symmetry of B & E waves?

The symmetry of B & E waves can affect their propagation and reception. For example, a symmetrical wave is more likely to maintain its shape and strength over long distances, while a non-symmetrical wave may experience distortion or interference. Understanding the symmetry can also help in designing and optimizing communication systems.

Can B & E waves be used for anything other than radio communications?

Yes, B & E waves have a variety of applications beyond radio communications. They are also used in technologies such as radar, microwave ovens, and wireless power transfer. Additionally, the study of B & E waves has led to important discoveries in the fields of physics and astronomy.

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