Basics of forces/torques and fulcrum

In summary: So, the first step is to find the spatial location of the cube's center of mass.Then, you need to find the forces exerted by the balloon and the cube on that center of mass.Finally, you need to solve for the center of mass's position, given the balloon and cube forces and the coordinate system you've chosen.
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TL;DR Summary: When a cube is supported at the fulcrum and remains stationary due to a balloon exerting a force in the opposite direction of its weight.

So the exercise is as follows: We have a homogeneous cube with an edge length of 2 meters, weighing 98N. On the other hand, we have a balloon that is applying an upward force with a magnitude of 78.4N. What is the distance at which I need to place the balloon for the cube to remain static?
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I think to solve this exercise, I need to add up all the torques and set the equation to 0, but I can't get anywhere with this. The solution to that exercise states that the balloon needs to be placed at a distance of 1.77 meters from the fulcrum and, at the same time, aligned with the cube's diagonals.
 
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JohnnyLaws said:
I think to solve this exercise, I need to add up all the torques and set the equation to 0, but I can't get anywhere with this.
Sounds good to me. What have you done so far? (Hint: Measure distances from the corner of the cube.)
 
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The solution to that exercise states that the balloon needs to be placed at a distance of 1.77 meters from the fulcrum and, at the same time, aligned with the cube's diagonals.
I wouldn't call that answer the "distance from the fulcrum" since the fulcrum is at the bottom of the cube. But if you measure distances along the top of the cube from the corner directly above the fulcrum, you'll get the given answer.
 
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...I think to solve this exercise, I need to add up all the torques and set the equation to 0, but I can't get anywhere with this.
Welcome, @JohnnyLaws !

Could you show us how far did you get?
Do you know how to draw a free body diagram?
 
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Welcome, @JohnnyLaws !

Could you show us how far did you get?
Do you know how to draw a free body diagram?
I think I do. Basically I drew a cube after that I put the force of weight in center of mass, the force of the ballon above cube and a force in fulcrum pointing up.
I think what I'm doing wrong is the cross product because in the equation of torques the unic variable is the position and position have 3 different components and I don't know any of them
 
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JohnnyLaws said:
I think I do. Basically I drew a cube after that I put the force of weight in center of mass, the force of the ballon above cube and a force in fulcrum pointing up.
Yes. Those are the three forces.

Have you decided on a reference axis yet for computing the torques from those forces? If you choose a reference axis at the right place, you can eliminate one of those forces from the torque balance.

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I think what I'm doing wrong is the cross product because in the equation of torques the unic variable is the position and position have 3 different components and I don't know any of them
Have you picked your coordinate axes yet? Since all three forces are vertical, you can align one of your axes that way and ignore that coordinate.

Since there is symmetry, you can align one of your axes that way and eliminate a second coordinate.

Now you have a one dimensional problem involving two forces.
 
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JohnnyLaws said:
I think I do. Basically I drew a cube after that I put the force of weight in center of mass, the force of the ballon above cube and a force in fulcrum pointing up.
I think what I'm doing wrong is the cross product because in the equation of torques the unic variable is the position and position have 3 different components and I don't know any of them
Please, see:
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-2/Drawing-Free-Body-Diagrams

Having a cube tells you the spatial location of its center of mass (and its vertical weight force) respect to the pivot point (and its vertical reaction force) and the vertical force exerted by the balloon.
 

Related to Basics of forces/torques and fulcrum

What is a force?

A force is a push or pull upon an object resulting from its interaction with another object. Forces can cause an object to start moving, stop moving, change direction, or change shape. They are vector quantities, meaning they have both magnitude and direction.

What is torque?

Torque, also known as the moment of force, is the rotational equivalent of linear force. It is the measure of the force that can cause an object to rotate about an axis. The magnitude of torque depends on the amount of force applied, the distance from the pivot point (fulcrum) to the point where the force is applied, and the angle at which the force is applied.

What is a fulcrum?

A fulcrum is the pivot point around which a lever rotates. It is the support or point of rest on which a lever turns or is supported when lifting or moving something. The position of the fulcrum determines the mechanical advantage and the efficiency of the lever system.

How do you calculate torque?

Torque (τ) can be calculated using the formula τ = r × F × sin(θ), where 'r' is the distance from the fulcrum to the point where the force is applied, 'F' is the magnitude of the force, and 'θ' is the angle between the force vector and the lever arm. In cases where the force is applied perpendicular to the lever arm, the formula simplifies to τ = r × F.

What is the principle of moments?

The principle of moments states that for a system to be in equilibrium, the sum of clockwise moments about any pivot point must be equal to the sum of counterclockwise moments about that same point. Mathematically, this can be expressed as Στ_clockwise = Στ_counterclockwise. This principle is crucial in understanding how levers and other rotational systems balance.

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