Bead sliding along wire with constant horizontal velocity -- Shape of wire?

In summary, the shape of a wire along which a bead slides with constant horizontal velocity can be determined by analyzing the forces acting on the bead. The wire must be shaped such that the gravitational force acting on the bead is balanced by the centripetal force required for the bead to maintain its horizontal motion. This results in a specific curve, commonly a catenary or another type of curve, depending on the system's constraints and the initial conditions of the bead's motion.
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Homework Statement
The following is exercise 5 from Chapter 4 of Morin's Introduction to Classical Mechanics. There is no solution in the book for these "Exercises", only for "Problems".

A bead, under the influence of gravity, slides along a frictionless wire whose height is given by the function ##y(x)##. Assume that at position ##(x, y) = (0, 0)##, the wire is horizontal and the bead passes this point with a given speed ##v_0## to the right. What should the shape of the wire be (that is, what is y as a function of ##x##) so that the horizontal speed remains ##v_0## at all times? One solution is simply ##y = 0##. Find the other.

There is a footnote:

Solve this exercise in the spirit of Problem 6, that is, by solving a differential equation. Once you get the answer, you’ll see that you could have just written it down without any calculations, based on your knowledge of a certain kind of physical motion.
Relevant Equations
##F=ma##
We start with something like

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If we suppose the wire is the green line, we are to figure out what the green line looks like to the right of the red bead.

What I first thought of was simply

$$\vec{r}'(t)=x'(t)\hat{i}+y'(t)\hat{j}=v_0\hat{i}+gt\hat{j}\tag{1}$$

$$\vec{r}(t)=x(t)\hat{i}+y(t)\hat{j}=v_0t\hat{i}+\frac{gt^2}{2}\hat{j}\tag{2}$$

Thus, ##\vec{r}(t)## represents the position of the wire.

Then I wanted to solve the problem in a way that would also give me the solution with ##y(t)=0## (and ##x(t)=v_0t##).

The initial solution above assumes there is no normal force at all on the bead from the wire.

If there were a normal force, we'd have

$$mg\hat{j}-\vec{N}=m\vec{a}\tag{3}$$

$$mg\hat{j}-(mg\cos{\alpha}\sin{\alpha}\hat{i}-mg\cos^2{\alpha})=ma_y\hat{j}\tag{4}$$

$$\implies mg\cos{\alpha}\sin{\alpha}=0\tag{5}$$

$$\implies \alpha = 0\ \text{or}\ \frac{\pi}{2}\tag{6}$$

Note that I am defining alpha as follows

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If ##\alpha=\frac{\pi}{2}## then the normal force is zero altogether, ##mg\hat{j}=ma_y\hat{j}##, and thus ##a_y=g##. There are no forces in the horizontal direction thus no acceleration either.

It seems we can write (1) and go from there.

If ##\alpha=0## then ##\vec{N}=-mg\hat{j}## and the 2nd law becomes ##0\hat{j}=ma_y\hat{j}\implies a_y=0##.

Thus, ##\vec{r}'(t)=v_0\hat{i}## and ##\vec{r}(t)=v_0t\hat{i}##. Thus, in this case, ##y(t)=0##.

My question is if this approach is the one mentioned by the footnote. Is the "differential equation" mentioned there simply the equations involving ##\vec{r}'(t)## that I have used, or is there some other way?
 
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We can't tell you if that approach is "in the spirit of problem 6" if you don't tell us what problem 6 is; not everyone has access to a copy of your text.

Since the position is contrained to be [itex](x, f(x))[/itex] so that the velocity is [itex](\dot x, f'(x) \dot x)[/itex] I would start with the Lagrangian [tex]
L(x, \dot x) = \tfrac12 m(1 + f'(x)^2)\dot x ^2 - mgf(x)[/tex] and obtain the Euler-Lagrange equation. Then the condition that [itex]\dot x = v_0[/itex] is constant requires [itex]\ddot x = 0[/itex]. What is left is a differential equation for [itex]f[/itex] subject to [itex]f(0) = f'(0) = 0[/itex].

EDIT: The other approach, which I think is what you have attempted, is to set [itex]\theta[/itex] as the angle between the tangent to the wire and the horizontal so that [itex]\tan \theta = f'(x)[/itex], and [itex]N[/itex] as the magnitude of the normal reaction force; then the horizontal and vertical components of Newton II are [tex]\begin{split}
m\ddot x &= N \sin \theta \\
m \ddot y &= N \cos \theta - mg. \end{split}[/tex] Now [tex]\begin{split}
N \cos \theta \tan \theta &= N \sin \theta \\
(\ddot y+ g)f'(x) &= \ddot x\end{split}[/tex] is where you want to start from.
 
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@pasmith I was confused about which problem was being referred to but now I can see it is the following

A bead, under the influence of gravity, slides along a frictionless wire whose height is given by the function ##y(x)##. Assume that at position ##(x, y) = (0, 0)## the wire is vertical and the bead passes this point with a given speed ##v_0## downward. What should the shape of the wire be (that is, what is ##y## as a function of ##x##) so that the vertical speed remains ##v_0## at all times?

This problem does have a solution in the book.

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So at this point I think I can see the approach that was intended.
 

FAQ: Bead sliding along wire with constant horizontal velocity -- Shape of wire?

What is the shape of the wire if a bead slides along it with a constant horizontal velocity?

The shape of the wire is a cycloid. This curve ensures that the vertical component of the gravitational force exactly compensates for the change in kinetic energy, allowing the bead to maintain a constant horizontal velocity.

How do you derive the equation of the cycloid for this problem?

The cycloid can be derived by considering the parametric equations of a point on the rim of a rolling circle. The equations are x = r(θ - sin(θ)) and y = r(1 - cos(θ)), where r is the radius of the circle and θ is the parameter. For the bead to maintain constant horizontal velocity, the radius and the parameter must be chosen appropriately to match the physical constraints.

Why does a cycloid ensure constant horizontal velocity for the bead?

A cycloid ensures constant horizontal velocity because its curvature provides the exact balance between gravitational acceleration and the bead's kinetic energy. The vertical component of gravitational force continuously adjusts to maintain the bead's horizontal speed, making the cycloid the ideal path.

Can the wire shape be something other than a cycloid for constant horizontal velocity?

No, for the bead to maintain a constant horizontal velocity under the influence of gravity alone, the wire must be shaped as a cycloid. Any other shape would result in variations in horizontal velocity due to changes in potential and kinetic energy.

What practical applications does this principle have?

This principle is used in the design of roller coasters and certain types of transportation systems where maintaining a constant speed is crucial. Understanding the cycloid shape also has implications in physics and engineering problems involving motion under gravity.

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