Betelgeuse will be eclipsed by an asteroid

  • Stargazing
  • Thread starter mfb
  • Start date
In summary, Betelgeuse, a prominent red supergiant star in the constellation Orion, is set to be eclipsed by an asteroid, which will temporarily obscure its light from Earth. This rare astronomical event will provide scientists with a unique opportunity to study both the star and the asteroid's characteristics as the eclipse unfolds.
  • #1
37,274
14,119
TL;DR Summary
One of the brightest stars in the night sky will be eclipsed by asteroid Leona December 11/12.
Occultations of bright stars are very rare. In the night to Tuesday (~10 seconds between 01:98 to 01:26 UTC depending on the location) it will be visible in a narrow band starting near Guadalajara in Mexico, crossing Florida at Miami, southern Spain, southern Italy, northern Greece, and Turkey around Ankara before ending in central Asia. This article has maps, more details.

Occultations are great opportunities to study the asteroid in more details, but here astronomers will also use observations to learn more about the star. We know it's approaching the end of its life and it's very dynamic, changing its brightness and even shape notably over time.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Likes Astronuc, Drakkith, chemisttree and 4 others
Astronomy news on Phys.org
  • #2
Definitely a fascinating event. This site will be providing a live stream of the event from Italy on 12 Dec. 2023, starting at 01:00 UTC:
https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/webtv/

From mfb's article above:
Lasting for nearly 18 minutes, the occultation will start at 8:08 p.m. ET and end at 8:26 p.m. ET (December 12 at 01:08:23 UT to 01:26:00 UT).
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Likes pinball1970, DAH, russ_watters and 1 other person
  • #3
mfb said:
Occultations are great opportunities to study the asteroid in more details, but here astronomers will also use observations to learn more about the star.
One day I will get the differences between transits, eclipses, and occultations straight. But what will we learn about the star? Onviously we won't see it when it is occulted.
 
  • #4
Vanadium 50 said:
occult
Telling the difference is a black art.
 
  • Haha
Likes Vanadium 50
  • #5
Vanadium 50 said:
But what will we learn about the star?
We may learn nothing new about the star, because we now have Hubble images.
The variation in brightness of the star, as it is eclipsed by the asteroid, can be deconvoluted to determine the size and the intensity of the corona.
 
  • Like
Likes Borg
  • #6
Vanadium 50 said:
One day I will get the differences between transits, eclipses, and occultations straight. But what will we learn about the star? Onviously we won't see it when it is occulted.
If and when it were "occulted".
The thing is, like Sun and Moon, Leona and Betelgeuse are actually close in size... with the foreground object thought to be slightly smaller (like annular eclipses of Sun). BUT compared to Sun and Moon which are close to exact discs, Leona and Betelgeuse are BOTH quite distorted, in shape and (what matters for Betelgeuse) distribution of brightness across the face.
 
  • #7
Man that would be cool to see...
 
  • #8
How often are stars eclipsed or occluded by LEO satellites, bats or aeroplanes?
Was that not a way of tracking stealth aircraft flying over your territory at night?
Blink, and you will miss it.
 
  • #9
Baluncore said:
We may learn nothing new about the star, because we now have Hubble images.
Exactly what I was getting at.

It may be possible to do spectroscopy (if it could be done fast enough) and learn something about magnetic fields, bur I would imagine they are small.
 
  • #10
Baluncore said:
How often are stars eclipsed or occluded by LEO satellites, bats or aeroplanes?
This sounds like a Fermi problem.

For satellites the scale is once per night. Maybe this is a few times per night, and maybe it is once every few nights, but it's not minutes and its not centuries.

However, these events last fractions of a millisecond.
 
  • #11
Almost two hours past and no updates. No live feeds (virtual telescope cancelled due to overcast conditions).

I dream of a future where international news will travel faster than a guy on a pony with a mail bag. But I'm spoiled.

Guess I'll wait till the world's astronomers punch in tomorrow at 9AM EST...
:sorry:
 
  • Like
Likes russ_watters
  • #12
Vanadium 50 said:
One day I will get the differences between transits, eclipses, and occultations straight. But what will we learn about the star? Onviously we won't see it when it is occulted.
Different parts of the star were blocked from view at different times, which corresponds to an effective angular resolution better than everything conventional telescopes on Earth can provide.
Hubble is too small to contribute to that anyway.
 
  • #13
I don't dispute that, but it doesn't answer my question. What do you learn about the star? If you were writing a proposal for telescope time, what would be the title?
 
  • #15
Thanks - that's what I was looking for.
 
  • #16
I've not seen any reports from the field: Did it happen ??
 
  • #17
Nik_2213 said:
Did it happen ??
Did the asteroid disappear? Did the star go out? I think not.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's only been 10 working days plus a major holiday since then.
 
  • Like
Likes Nik_2213
  • #18
It happened. Videos of it aren't very spectacular, and data analysis will take months.

 
  • Like
Likes Nik_2213 and berkeman
  • #19
mfb said:
It happened. Videos of it ...
Thanks. That's all I wanted.

It's pretty darned cool to see a cosmic event occurring in real time of an object 550ly away. (OK, technically the event is more like 30 light minutes away, but still). I would have loved to be able look up and see it.
 
  • Like
Likes Nik_2213

FAQ: Betelgeuse will be eclipsed by an asteroid

What is Betelgeuse, and why is it significant?

Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star located in the constellation Orion. It is one of the largest and most luminous stars visible to the naked eye. Betelgeuse is significant because it is nearing the end of its life cycle and is expected to go supernova within the next 100,000 years, which would be a spectacular event observable from Earth.

Can an asteroid really eclipse a star like Betelgeuse?

In theory, an asteroid could eclipse a star if it passes directly between the star and the observer. However, given the vast distances involved and the relative sizes of stars and asteroids, such an event would be extremely rare and would typically only cause a very brief and minor dimming of the star's light.

Has Betelgeuse been observed to be eclipsed by an asteroid before?

There are no documented instances of Betelgeuse being eclipsed by an asteroid. Any claims of such an event would require rigorous observation and confirmation from multiple sources to be considered credible.

What would be the scientific significance if Betelgeuse were eclipsed by an asteroid?

If Betelgeuse were eclipsed by an asteroid, it would provide a unique opportunity to study the asteroid's size, shape, and composition based on how it affects the star's light. Additionally, it could offer insights into the distribution and behavior of asteroids in our solar system or beyond.

How can astronomers predict or detect an eclipse of Betelgeuse by an asteroid?

Astronomers can predict or detect such an eclipse by monitoring the star's brightness continuously and looking for any unusual dimming patterns. Advanced telescopes and satellite observations can help track the positions of asteroids and predict potential alignment events. Sophisticated software and algorithms are used to analyze the data and confirm any potential eclipses.

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
Back
Top