"Big Bang" according to the 19th century poet ("Science-v-Poetry")

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In summary, the 19th-century poet explores the concept of the "Big Bang" through a lens that contrasts scientific reasoning with poetic expression. The poet reflects on the origins of the universe, emphasizing the beauty and mystery of creation while critiquing the limitations of scientific explanations. This interplay between science and poetry highlights the emotional and imaginative aspects of understanding the cosmos, suggesting that both perspectives offer valuable insights into existence.
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TL;DR Summary: the cosmology of Poe's "Eureka" vs "Genesis from the Spirit" of J.Slowacki

Polish poet Juliusz Słowacki [1809-1849] wrote a mystical prose poem (or a prayer) entitled "Genesis from the Spirit". If we omit the mystical parts in the poem and leave only the purely material, objective, physical ones, we ended up with the following description of the creation of the world :

...The Spirit... turned one point... of invisible space into a flash of Magnetic-Attractive Forces. And these turned into electric and lightning bolds - And they warmed up in the Spirit... You, Lord, forced him... to flash with destructive fire... You turned the Spirit... into a ball of fire and hung him on the abysses... And here... a circle spirits... he grabbed one handful of globes and swirled them around like a fiery rainbow... “

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https://www.salon24.pl/u/edalward/1...ng-to-the-19th-century-polish-poet-j-slowacki for more details and references)

My questions:
- Isn't this the first such detailed description (and close to what we know today) of the "Big Bang" in world literature?
- Would anyone like to interpret this description from the point of view of modern physics? Do the stages of the creation of the world in the poem and the forces mentioned there correspond to the “Big Bang” scenario known to modern science? (I'm not a physicist myself!) ;

Thank you in advance

Ed

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According to experts on the subject, the writing process started in 1844 or 1843, took about two years and resulted in four versions of the poem (published in 1871). The American Adgar Allan Poe - practically the contemporary of the Polish poet - had an analogous, astonishing intuition (in his famous « Eureka » published in 1848 ).
 
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That doesn't sound like the big bang to me. Of course any aesthetic similarity to the big bang would have to be coincidental, since he was a poet and the big bang hadn't been hypothesized yet.
 
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Woo woo.
 
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It reads like a non-physicist asked a couple of physicists to speculate about the origins of the universe, didn't understand a thing about their ideas (which were probably way off base anyway, before Friedman, Slipher, Hubble et al), and strung together a poet's madlib from what he remembered. It has a couple of points in common with bad popularisations of big bang theory, but pretty much nothing with the correct version.

I'd tend to suspect pharmaceutical inspiration over physical, frankly.
 
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Polish? Home of potato vodka? That might be the explanation.
 
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Poets are part of a group that deal and reason in words. They believe that, if they read enough literary works, in enough different languages, they will gain an understanding of the concepts needed, to appreciate the complexity of the universe. Poets believe that they can express and understand the mysteries of the universe, by finding the right arrangement of words in their language.

For scientific analysis of physics, the only language in which the poet's belief holds is mathematics, a language rejected by the vast majority of poets. Physics is based on the solid rock of mathematics.

The poet in me cannot resist a quote: Matthew 24-27.
24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”
 
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What is the Big Bang theory?

The Big Bang theory is the leading explanation about how the universe began. It suggests that the universe was once extremely hot and dense and expanded rapidly. This expansion caused the universe to cool and led to the formation of matter and the large-scale structure we observe today.

How old is the universe according to the Big Bang theory?

According to the Big Bang theory, the universe is approximately 13.8 billion years old. This age is determined through observations of the cosmic microwave background radiation and the expansion rate of the universe.

What evidence supports the Big Bang theory?

Several key pieces of evidence support the Big Bang theory: the cosmic microwave background radiation, the abundance of light elements (such as hydrogen and helium), and the redshift of galaxies, which indicates that the universe is expanding.

What was there before the Big Bang?

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Will the universe continue to expand forever?

The future of the universe's expansion depends on various factors, including the amount of dark energy and dark matter. Current observations suggest that the universe will continue to expand at an accelerating rate, leading to a cold, dark, and dilute state known as the "heat death" of the universe.

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