Board and man sliding on ice problem

In summary, a 250-kg board slides on ice at a speed of 21m/s. A 63 kg man grabs onto one end and both begin to rotate. The center of mass of the system moves at a speed of 16.77 m/s after the collision. In part B, the angular velocity of the system rotating about its new center of mass is not conserved due to the completely inelastic collision. Conservation of angular momentum can be used to solve for this. The energy goes to both translational and rotational motion, and this can be explained using center-of-mass coordinates.
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Homework Statement


A 250-kg board, 2.4 m in length slides broadside along the surface of ice with a speed of 21m/s . A 63 kg man at rest grabs one end as it goes past and hangs on as both he and the beam go spinning down the ice. Assume frictionless motion, and assume that the man can be regarded as a point mass. [Editor's note: that does not seem like a realistic speed for anybody to catch and hold on to the board! Work the problem anyway.] (Figure 1)

Part A. How fast does the center of mass of the system move after the collision?


Part B. With what angular velocity does the system rotate about its new center of mass? (Note that this is not the original center of mass of the board.)


Homework Equations



L=Iω, TE = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2Iω^2

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer to part A is 16.77 m/s. I found this by using cons of momentum.
Is kinetic energy conserved in part B? Can someone set it up for me?
 
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Hi Zach981! :smile:
Zach981 said:
Is kinetic energy conserved in part B?

Certainly not … this is a completely inelastic collision.

Use conservation of angular momentum :wink:

(which, like ordinary momentum, is always conserved in collisions)​
 
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Where else would the energy go? Note that there is translational and rotational motion.
Isn't angular momentum supposed to be conserved as well?
Have you been introduced to center-of-mass coordinates yet?
 

Related to Board and man sliding on ice problem

1. What is the "Board and man sliding on ice problem"?

The "Board and man sliding on ice problem" is a physics problem that involves a man standing on a horizontal board that is initially at rest on a frictionless surface of ice. The man then pushes the board with a horizontal force, causing both the board and the man to slide across the ice. This problem is used to demonstrate the principles of conservation of momentum and energy.

2. What are the forces acting on the man and the board in this problem?

In this problem, there are two main forces acting on the man and the board: the force of gravity pulling them downwards, and the horizontal force applied by the man pushing the board. There is also a normal force acting perpendicular to the surface of the ice, but since the surface is frictionless, it does not affect the motion.

3. What is the relationship between the mass of the man and the board and their acceleration?

According to Newton's second law of motion, the acceleration of an object is directly proportional to the net force acting on it and inversely proportional to its mass. In this problem, the man's mass and the board's mass determine the overall mass of the system. Therefore, the larger the mass, the smaller the acceleration will be for a given force.

4. How does friction affect the motion of the man and the board?

In this problem, the surface of the ice is assumed to be frictionless. However, if there were friction present, it would act in the opposite direction of the motion and slow down the man and the board. This would result in a smaller distance traveled and a longer time for the man and the board to come to a stop.

5. Can the man and the board continue to slide forever on the ice?

No, they cannot. In this problem, the ice is assumed to be a perfectly smooth and frictionless surface, which is not realistic. In reality, there would be some friction present, and eventually, the man and the board would come to a stop due to the conversion of their kinetic energy into heat energy through friction. Additionally, the force of gravity would also act to bring the man and the board back to the ground, eventually stopping their motion.

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