Boundary condition of limiting friction in continuum mechanics

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What is the correct boundary condition for limiting friction?
Suppose I have a block of deformable material on a rough surface. I want to have the boundary condition for the stress tensor that takes into account of friction. If the mass of my block is [itex]m[/itex], and of density [itex]\rho[/itex] and the coefficient of friction is [itex]\mu[/itex] as well as gravity [itex]g[/itex]. The resultant force is given by [itex]R=mg=\rho gdV[/itex], so the frictional force per unit mass is [itex]\mu\rho g$. Linking to the tangential part of the stress tensor, this yields: [tex]\hat{\mathbf{n}}\cdot\boldsymbol{\sigma}\cdot\hat{\mathbf{t}}=\mu\rho g[/tex]

Does this reasoning seem okay?
 
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I assume that force per area or pressure on the surface matters but I do not find it in your formula where volume matters.
 
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Pressure is part of the stress tensor.
 
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Yea, but I mentioned about RHS ##\mu \rho g## which has physical dimension of ML^-2 T^-2 force per volume.
 
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Surely that's correct, as when you use this as a boundary condition, you require the force per unit volume in 3D. Navier's equations in differential form require force per unit volume. That was my thinking here.
 
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Your LHS and RHS have same dimension ?
 
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The ##\rho g## is not present in the boundary condition; it is only in the stress-equilibrium differential equation.

If the usual convention is followed, where tensile stresses are considered positive, then ##-n \centerdot \sigma \centerdot n## is the normal compressive stress exerted by the surface on the block.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Your LHS and RHS have same dimension ?
I'm pretty sure they are. I thought about this. The differential equation uses per unit volume. This is the RHS.
 
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Chestermiller said:
The ##\rho g## is not present in the boundary condition; it is only in the stress-equilibrium differential equation.

If the usual convention is followed, where tensile stresses are considered positive, then ##-n \centerdot \sigma \centerdot n## is the normal compressive stress exerted by the surface on the block.
I think that [itex]\hat{\mathbf{n}}\cdot\boldsymbol{\sigma}\cdot\hat{\mathbf{t}}[/itex] is the correct component for the frictional force here. One can also generalise this slightly by the equation:
[tex]\hat{\mathbf{n}}\cdot\boldsymbol{\sigma}-(\hat{\mathbf{n}}\cdot\boldsymbol{\sigma}\cdot\hat{\mathbf{n}})\hat{\mathbf{n}}=f(|\mathbf{u}|)\hat{\mathbf{u}}[/tex]
The motion is very slight, so static friction should be a good approximation I think.
 
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On the boundary, I would expect to see something like
##\sigma_{shear}\leq\mu\sigma_{normal}##
So you are making approximations on the rhs.
Friction opposes motion, so there is also going to be a need for some additional logic to determine which direction the shear points. There is also going to be a need for logic to handle the inequality.
 
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Frabjous said:
On the boundary, I would expect to see something like
##\sigma_{shear}\leq\mu\sigma_{normal}##
So you are making approximations on the rhs.
Friction opposes motion, so there is also going to be a need for some additional logic to determine which direction the shear points. There is also going to be a need for logic to handle the inequality.
Friction will oppose motion obviously. I am making an approximation; that approximation is that the velocity is small enough that static friction will be enough to accurately capture this. I did explain that it was limiting friction.
 
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hunt_mat said:
Friction will oppose motion obviously. I am making an approximation; that approximation is that the velocity is small enough that static friction will be enough to accurately capture this. I did explain that it was limiting friction.
What happens if you double the height of the block?
 
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Frabjous said:
What happens if you double the height of the block?
It doesn’t change the boundary condition expression.
 
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Frabjous said:
What happens if you double the height of the block?
It's scaled with volume.
 
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If you double the height of the block, you double it’s mass. One would expect the friction to increase. This is not reflected in ##\mu\rho g##.
 
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It's scaled with volume. The governing equations are per unit volume.
 
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hunt_mat said:
It's scaled with volume. The governing equations are per unit volume.
Not the boundary conditions.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Not the boundary conditions.
The boundary conditions have to fit the governing equations. So I don't understand what you're saying here.
 
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hunt_mat said:
The boundary conditions have to fit the governing equations. So I don't understand what you're saying here.
The boundary conditions are per. unit area, not unit volume.
 

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