Box containing particles and be left alone

In summary, when a box containing particles is divided equally into two, the new entropy of both systems will be less than the initial entropy. This is known as the "Gibbs paradox" in statistical mechanics, but the incorrect formula for entropy was used in this conversation.
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Suppose I have a box containing particles and be left alone, with a total amount of energy, E. Hence, at equilibrium, these particles will obey the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution. The entropy of the system is,

[tex]S=NkT lnV[/tex]

where T is the temperature of the system. V = volume of box.

Suppose now, I divide this box equally into two, hence, now, each new box's volume is V/2, and the number of particles in each box is just N/2. But the temperature of these two new systems will stay the same, since they were in equilibrium initially.
Now, the new entropy of both systems would be:

[tex] S_{new}=\frac{N}{2}kTln V/2 + \frac{N}{2}kTln V/2 [/tex]
[tex] S_{new} = NkT ln V - NkTln 2 [/tex]

But, [tex]S_{new} < S[/tex]

Where did I go wrong?
 
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You're adressing the famous "Gibbs paradox" in statistical mechanics (there's actually no paradox), but you're using an incorrect formula for entropy...

Daniel.
 
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Your calculation for the new entropy is correct, but the assumption that the temperature will stay the same is incorrect. When the box is divided into two, the temperature of each new system will actually decrease. This is because the total energy, E, is now divided between two systems instead of one, meaning each system will have half the original energy. According to the equation E=3/2NkT, a decrease in energy will result in a decrease in temperature.

Therefore, the correct calculation for the new entropy would be:

S_{new} = \frac{N}{2}kTln\frac{V}{2} + \frac{N}{2}kTln\frac{V}{2} = NkTln\frac{V}{2} - NkTln2

This shows that the new entropy is actually less than the original entropy, which is in line with the second law of thermodynamics. The second law states that the entropy of an isolated system will either remain constant or increase over time, never decrease.

In summary, the mistake in your calculation was assuming that the temperature would stay the same when the box was divided into two. In reality, the decrease in energy would result in a decrease in temperature, leading to a decrease in entropy.
 

Related to Box containing particles and be left alone

1. What is a box containing particles and why is it left alone?

A box containing particles refers to a closed system that contains a specific number of particles, such as atoms or molecules. It is left alone in order to observe the behavior and interactions of the particles without any external influences.

2. What types of particles can be found in a box?

A box containing particles can contain various types of particles, such as atoms, molecules, ions, or even subatomic particles like electrons or protons. The type of particles depends on the specific experiment or system being studied.

3. What is the purpose of studying a box containing particles?

Studying a box containing particles allows scientists to understand the behavior and properties of matter at a microscopic level. It also helps in developing theories and models to explain natural phenomena and predict future outcomes.

4. How is a box containing particles different from an open system?

A box containing particles is a closed system, meaning that it is isolated from any external influences. In contrast, an open system has interactions with its surroundings, allowing for matter and energy to enter or leave the system.

5. What are some common techniques used to study boxes containing particles?

Some common techniques used to study boxes containing particles include spectroscopy, microscopy, and computational simulations. These techniques allow scientists to observe and analyze the behavior and properties of particles within the box.

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