British physics olympiad problem: A ball bearing bouncing off a steel cylinder

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hdp
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Homework Statement
A steel ball bearing of mass m1 = 45 g is dropped from rest
from a height of h = 2.0 m. It rebounds off a steel cylinder
of mass m2 = 0.45 kg which is supported by a light spring
of spring constant k = 1600 N m−1
, as shown in Fig. 22.
If the collision between the ball bearing and the cylinder is
elastic,
(i) what would be the speed of the cylinder immediately
after impact, and
(ii) what would be the maximum deflection of the spring?
You may find it helpful to use the ratio of the masses,
r =m2/m1
Relevant Equations
Energy Conservation
Spring potential = 1/2 kx^2
I am struggling to find correct approximation for the problem. Is momentum conserved at the immediate impact of... (1)
Can I ignore gravitational force and potential for the spring which is connected to ground and vertically upholding a mass . ( using equilibrium)
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You will have to make an assumption about the spring constant for the collision between the ball and the cylinder. I would take it as arbitrarily large. That means you can consider that bounce as happening in an arbitrarily short time, before the spring gets further compressed at all.
 
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hdp said:
I am struggling to find correct approximation for the problem.

I think that may be because you are trying too hard. Read again the hints in the paper (unreadable in your image but quoted from the original at https://www.bpho.org.uk/Papers/R1/2021Nov_R1_S2.pdf):

Approximations and making a simple model are key to doing physics. Often we require linear behaviour in
our model, often associated with a small displacement from equilibrium, and also that the collision time is
short compared to any other motion of the system.

I like to think of this as (misquoting somebody) "everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler".

hdp said:
Is momentum conserved at the immediate impact of...

Why shouldn't it be? Would it be possible to answer part (i) if it wasn't?

hdp said:
Can I ignore gravitational force and potential for the spring which is connected to ground and vertically upholding a mass.

The question says the spring is light so what do you think? As you have no value for the mass of the spring would it be possible to answer the question if you couldn't ignore it?
 

FAQ: British physics olympiad problem: A ball bearing bouncing off a steel cylinder

What is the initial setup of the problem involving a ball bearing and a steel cylinder?

The initial setup typically involves a ball bearing being projected towards a steel cylinder with a known velocity and angle of incidence. The problem may specify the dimensions of the ball bearing and the cylinder, as well as the material properties such as density and elasticity.

How do you calculate the angle of reflection when the ball bearing bounces off the steel cylinder?

The angle of reflection can be calculated using the law of reflection, which states that the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection. This assumes an ideal elastic collision where no energy is lost, and the surface of the cylinder is perfectly smooth.

What equations are used to determine the velocity of the ball bearing after the collision?

The velocity of the ball bearing after the collision can be determined using conservation of momentum and conservation of kinetic energy equations. For an elastic collision, these equations help in calculating both the speed and direction of the ball bearing post-impact.

How does the curvature of the steel cylinder affect the collision outcome?

The curvature of the steel cylinder affects the collision outcome by influencing the normal vector at the point of contact. This normal vector determines the direction of the force exerted on the ball bearing, which in turn affects the angle and velocity after the bounce. The curvature can lead to a more complex interaction compared to a flat surface.

What factors could cause deviations from the ideal theoretical predictions in a real-world scenario?

In a real-world scenario, factors such as surface roughness, material imperfections, air resistance, and energy losses due to heat and sound can cause deviations from the ideal theoretical predictions. Additionally, any spin imparted to the ball bearing or deformation of the materials during impact can also affect the outcome.

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