Bush's Disastrous Interviews: A National Embarrassment

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In summary, the conversation discusses the decline of President George W. Bush's performance in interviews, questioning if he is either drinking again or simply stopped caring. The conversation also mentions his lack of knowledge on certain topics, such as gas prices and a Russian presidential candidate, and his tendency to make jokes and use colloquial language in serious situations. The authors of two articles, Gail Collins and Maureen Dowd, criticize Bush for his lack of leadership and ability to handle crises, comparing his approach to the economic crisis to his response to Hurricane Katrina.
  • #36
russ_watters said:
I was on a warship on 9/11. I considered (briefly) requesting a transfer to a ship that would be deployed to the ME. I know exactly what feelings Bush is trying to evoke in those troops, because I've had them too.

Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. To tell soldiers that it's romantic to fight in a war that is pointless and without end in sight is just stupid.

What's more, there's the REAL war going on next door (Afghanistan) that we aren't paying 1/10th of the attention to, militarily, politically, or financially.

You felt the way you did because WE WERE ATTACKED ON 9/11. You wanted to defend your country and avenge the people that died that day. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so it's just stupid to say "Hurr hurr it sho is sexy to fight down there!" when people all around are dying for NO REASON.
 
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Poop-Loops said:
Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. To tell soldiers that it's romantic to fight in a war that is pointless and without end in sight is just stupid.

What's more, there's the REAL war going on next door (Afghanistan) that we aren't paying 1/10th of the attention to, militarily, politically, or financially.
I guess you didn't bother even reading the article, he was addressing troops and people in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

Russ didn't mention Iraq.

How on Earth did you make the leap to Iraq?
 
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Evo said:
I guess you didn't bother even reading the article, he was addressing troops and people in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

Sorry, my mistake. I read most of the article, but didn't read the title, so I missed the "Afghanistan" part. I just assumed he was discussing both wars.

But that changes everything. I can't imagine anything more boner-inducing than being left to die in the desert because, well damn, turns out there is a more important war going on just next door.
 
  • #39
Poop-Loops said:
Sorry, my mistake. I read most of the article, but didn't read the title, so I missed the "Afghanistan" part. I just assumed he was discussing both wars.

But that changes everything. I can't imagine anything more boner-inducing than being left to die in the desert because, well damn, turns out there is a more important war going on just next door.
Right now Afghanistan is a hornets nest about to explode, with the NATO controversy. Astronuc started a thread about it after my rant, but no one seems to care.
 
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Russ, I think you are very wrong on this one. What Bush said was inexcusable. The greatest sacrifice any person can make for his country is to fight in a war. It is a horrible wrenching experience. To equate that sacrifice to some "adventure" as if it were some kind of vacation is to belittle it to the point of meaninglessness. It is NOT a vacation. It is not an adventure. It is a GREAT sacrifice and the men and women who make that sacrifice, whether a volunteer or not, deserve greater respect from the President than he gave them.

But then Bush swift boated two great heroes of the Vietnam War. What should I expect from him...
 

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