Calculate Max Resistance for 2 Parallel Wires

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the total resistance of two resistors connected in parallel. The participants also consider the length of two wires made of the same material and use a derivative to find the maximum resistance. They also discuss the importance of verifying whether the extremum found is a maximum or a minimum. Finally, they mention the equivalence of finding the extremum of the inverse of the total resistance and finding the maximum of the equivalent resistance.
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Homework Statement
How must the lengths ##L_1## and ##L2## be distributed so that the resistance between the points ##X## and ##Y## becomes maximum
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Hi,

I am not sure if I have calculated the task here correctly:

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Based on the drawing, I now assumed that the two resistors are connected in parallel. The total resistance can then be calculated as follows ##\frac{1}{R_T}=\frac{1}{R_1}+\frac{1}{R_2}##.

Since the two wires are made of the same material, I only considered their length in the calculation. Then I specified the following ##L_1=x## and ##L_2=1000-x## and substituted into the equation above ##\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{1000-x}##

Since the resistance is supposed to be maximum, I calculated the derivative of the above expression and then set it to zero.

$$\frac{1}{(1000-x)^2}-\frac{1}{x^2}=0$$

After that, I simply solved the equation for x and got for ##x=500m## which gives me the following for the lengths ##L_1=500m## and ##L_2=500m##.
 
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Looks fine, but you should verify you found a maximum rather than a minimum.
 
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Lambda96 said:
Then I specified the following ##L_1=x## and ##L_2=1000-x## and substituted into the equation above ##\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{1000-x}##
I think you have treated the above expression as the total resistance. But it is not - it is the inverse of the total resistance.

Also, a good way of checking answers (when practical) is to compare the answer against extreme cases. E.g. what resistance would you expect if ##L_1=L_2##? What resistance would you expect if ##L_1= 1000m## and ##L_2=0##?
 
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Steve4Physics said:
I think you have treated the above expression as the total resistance. But it is not - it is the inverse of the total resistance.
Of course, since ##f(x) = \frac{1}{x}## is strictly monotone decreasing (barring the boundary where ##x = 0##), searching for an extremum on ##\frac{1}{x}## is largely equivalent to searching for an extremum on ##x##.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
Of course, since ##f(x) = \frac{1}{x}## is strictly monotone decreasing (barring the boundary where ##x = 0##), searching for an extremum on ##\frac{1}{x}## is largely equivalent to searching for an extremum on ##x##.
Yes. Finding the extremum of ##\frac 1{R_T}## (which is a minmum here) is equivalent to finding the maximum of ##R_T##.

But it's not clear (to me anyway) if that's what the OP has intentionally done!
 
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Isn't it easier to find an expression for the equivalent resistance and just look at it?
$$\frac{1}{R_{eq}}=\kappa\left(\frac{1}{L-x}+\frac{1}{x}\right)=\frac{\kappa~L}{x(L-x)}\implies R_{eq}=\frac{1}{\kappa}x(L-x).$$ This is equivalent to the problem of having a string of length ##L## and being asked to find the rectangle of perimeter ##L## that has maximum area. The answer is a rectangle of equal sides because for every rectangle of base ##b## and height ##h## there is another rectangle of base ##h## and height ##b## that has equal area. Thus, any ##b\neq h## is not unique and cannot be an extremum. Only ##b=h## gives a unique area and hence an extremum. It is a maximum because when either one of the sides goes to zero, the area goes to zero.
 
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vela said:
Looks fine, but you should verify you found a maximum rather than a minimum.
If you are referring to the expression that OP is optimizing, it better have a minimum because it is the inverse of the equivalent resistance.
 
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Thank you vela, Steve4Physics, jbriggs444 and kuruman, for your help and for checking my calculation👍👍👍👍
 
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The formula to calculate the total resistance (R_total) of two parallel resistors (R1 and R2) is given by: 1/R_total = 1/R1 + 1/R2. To find R_total, you take the reciprocal of the sum of the reciprocals of the individual resistances.

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What happens to the total resistance if both resistors have the same value?

If both resistors have the same value (R), the total resistance (R_total) is half of one resistor's value. This can be calculated using the formula: R_total = R/2.

Why is the total resistance in a parallel circuit always less than the smallest individual resistance?

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