Calculate Permissible Error in Pressure with F & L

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In summary: The formula is for the error in area, but the question asks for the error in pressure.In summary, the permissible error in pressure can be calculated by taking the square root of the sum of squares of the percentage errors in force and area, which would be 4.4%. However, if the question is referring to the length of the square plate instead of its area, the error would be slightly higher at 4.9%. It is also important to note that the two length errors may be correlated, which could affect the overall error calculation.
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How to calculate the permissible error?
A force F is applied on a square plate of size L . If the percentage error in determination of L is 2% and that in F is 4% . What will be the permissible error in pressure?
 
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Malu666 said:
How to calculate the permissible error?
A force F is applied on a square plate of size L . If the percentage error in determination of L is 2% and that in F is 4% . What will be the permissible error in pressure?
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Depends on how you define "permissible".
First, you say a "square" sheet. Is it really square? You have to assume "I don't know" so the area could be that of a general quadrilateral. That requires the measurement of 4 sides plus two opposite angles: http://keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1322718508
Plus a 7th independent measurement is for the force F.
So, assume the error in measuring each side's length and that of each of the two angles is 2%,
if the errors are random in all 7 cases, error propagation theory says to take the square root of the sum of the squares:
error = √(6(.022) + .042) = 0.063 = 6.3%.

But there is also the "worst-case" error which you would get if all your measurements are at their respective extremes, in which case the error would be (1.02)6(1.04) - 1 = 17.1%.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Maybe you went for a higher level of explanation. I think that the question interconnects between force , area and pressure. As pressure = force/ area , can you precisely explain about the permissible error in pressure ?
 
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Malu666 said:
Thanks for the reply. Maybe you went for a higher level of explanation. I think that the question interconnects between force , area and pressure. As pressure = force/ area , can you precisely explain about the permissible error in pressure ?
If the error in force is 4.0% and the error in area is 2.0%, the error in pressure is √(.0402 + .0202) = 4.4%.

But L is likely to mean length, not area, so then it'd be √(.0402 + .0202 + .0202) = 4.9%.
 
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rude man said:
If the error in force is 4.0% and the error in area is 2.0%, the error in pressure is √(.0402 + .0202) = 4.4%.

But L is likely to mean length, not area, so then it'd be √(.0402 + .0202 + .0202) = 4.9%.
We are told it is square. The two length errors are correlated?
 
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haruspex said:
We are told it is square. The two length errors are correlated?
Good point. So it's just √(.022 + .042).
 
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Evo said:
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OK. Sorry. I thought after I wrote that it was probably excessive. Will be more on guard henceforth.
r m
 
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rude man said:
OK. Sorry. I thought after I wrote that it was probably excessive. Will be more on guard henceforth.
r m
You're cool, we're just trying to get things more even in responses, some members get turned back while some get answered.
 
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rude man said:
Good point. So it's just √(.022 + .042).
No, the answer should get bigger, not smaller.
 

FAQ: Calculate Permissible Error in Pressure with F & L

What is the formula for calculating permissible error in pressure with F & L?

The formula for calculating permissible error in pressure with F & L is:
Permissible Error = Maximum Scale Division / 2

How do I determine the maximum scale division for my pressure measurement instrument?

The maximum scale division can be found in the instrument's user manual or specifications sheet. It is typically measured in units of pressure, such as psi or bar.

Can I use the same formula for any type of pressure measurement instrument?

Yes, the formula for calculating permissible error with F & L can be applied to any type of pressure measurement instrument, as long as the maximum scale division is known.

Is permissible error the same as accuracy in pressure measurement?

No, permissible error and accuracy are not the same. Permissible error refers to the maximum amount of error allowed in a measurement, while accuracy is a measure of how close a measurement is to the true or expected value.

Are there any other factors that can affect permissible error in pressure measurement?

Yes, other factors such as temperature, humidity, and atmospheric pressure can also affect permissible error in pressure measurement. It is important to consider and account for these factors when calculating permissible error.

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