Calculate Probability of Magnitude 1 Spin with Two Particles

In summary: Overall, the probability of measuring a total spin of 1 is 1/2 or 50%.In summary, the total probability of measuring a total spin of 1 for two particles with spin 1/2 in the spin state |\psi> = |\uparrow_{1}>|\downarrow_{2}> is 50%. This can be found by expanding |\psi> in terms of the singlet and triplet states and taking the square of the coefficient of the triplet state, after properly normalizing |\psi>.
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Homework Statement



Two particles with spin 1/2 and are in the spin state:

[itex] |\psi> = |\uparrow_{1}>|\downarrow_{2}> [/itex]

where [itex] |\uparrow_{1}> [/itex] is a state where particle 1 has spin up along the z-axis and
[itex] |\downarrow_{2}>[/itex] is a state where particle 2 is spin down along the z-axis.

If we measure the magnitude of the total spin of the two particles, what is the probability that the magnitude will be 1?

Homework Equations



[itex] Probability = |<n|\psi>|^{2} [/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I immediately thought that this problem was like a simple coin toss. 50% to get heads 50% to get tails. Since each particle has equal chance to be spin up or spin down, then the total probability of both being spin up after a measurement would be (0.5)(0.5) = 0.25 ?

This doesn't feel right to me. I feel like it should be more complicated. =/
 
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Hello.

Can you expand the state ##|\psi \rangle## in terms of basis states that have definite values of the total spin? These basis states are the "singlet" and "triplet" states.

See here and here.
 
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Hello =)

so the singlet state is
[itex] |\psi_{singlet}>= 1/(√2)(|\uparrow\downarrow> - |\downarrow\uparrow>) [/itex]

and the triplet state is

[itex] |\psi_{triplet}>= 1/(√2)(|\uparrow\downarrow> + |\downarrow\uparrow>) [/itex]

so,
[itex] |\psi> = 1/2(|\psi_{singlet}> + |\psi_{triplet}>) [/itex]

in order to get S=1, the spin state would need to be triplet. The probability would then be the square of the coefficient of the triplet state?

[itex] |1/(2\sqrt{2})|^{2} = 0.125 [/itex]

this doesn't make sense though, because the total probabilities don't add up to 1...
 
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QuarksAbove said:
[itex] |\psi> = 1/2(|\psi_{singlet}> + |\psi_{triplet}>) [/itex]

Make sure ##|\psi \rangle## is properly normalized.
 
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Oh right, I forgot.

After normalization, [itex] |\psi> = 1/\sqrt{2}(|\uparrow\downarrow> - |\downarrow\uparrow>) +1/\sqrt{2}(|\uparrow\downarrow> + |\downarrow\uparrow>) [/itex]

leaving the probability to be in the triplet state (S=1) to be 1/2.

Thanks for your help! I think I got it!
 
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That looks correct.
 

Related to Calculate Probability of Magnitude 1 Spin with Two Particles

1. What is the formula for calculating the probability of a magnitude 1 spin with two particles?

The formula for calculating the probability of a magnitude 1 spin with two particles is P = (1/3) * (1 + cosθ), where θ is the angle between the two particles.

2. How is the probability affected by the angle between the two particles?

The probability is directly affected by the angle between the two particles. When the angle is 0 degrees, the probability is at its maximum of 1. As the angle increases, the probability decreases and reaches its minimum of 0 when the angle is 180 degrees.

3. Can the probability of a magnitude 1 spin be greater than 1?

No, the probability of a magnitude 1 spin with two particles cannot be greater than 1. This is because the maximum value of the probability formula is 1, and the probability cannot exceed this value.

4. How does the number of particles affect the probability of a magnitude 1 spin?

The number of particles does not affect the probability of a magnitude 1 spin. The probability formula is specifically for two particles, and it does not change regardless of the number of particles.

5. What is the significance of calculating the probability of a magnitude 1 spin with two particles?

Calculating the probability of a magnitude 1 spin with two particles is important in understanding the behavior of quantum particles in systems with two particles. It helps in predicting the chances of two particles having the same spin state, which is crucial in quantum mechanics and quantum computing.

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