Calculate the average force on the side walls of a container

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patric44
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Homework Statement
calculate the average force on the face "y"
Relevant Equations
F = 1/2 rho*g*h*A
Hi All, in the following problem:
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the book solution
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I don't understand why he added the term
$$
\rho g h_{z} A_{y}
$$
shouldn't it just be :
$$
F = 1/2 \rho g h_{y} A_{y}
$$
 
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What would you say the pressure is at height ##h_y## on the x side?
 
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haruspex said:
What would you say the pressure is at height ##h_y## on the x side?
I guess it will be ##\rho g h_{y}## but it will be a downward pressure.
 
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patric44 said:
I guess it will be ##\rho g h_{y}## but it will be a downward pressure.
Pressure in a fluid has no direction, which is to say it acts equally in all directions.
 
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haruspex said:
Pressure in a fluid has no direction, which is to say it acts equally in all directions.
OK, so you mean the pressure due to the weight of water contained at the z part (##\rho g h_{z}##) will act also along the right side affecting the area ##A_{y}## hence its force = ##\rho g h_{z} A_{y}##, am I correct in this interpretation.
the confusing thing also is, if I use integration it gives an equation that is the difference between two values but also outputs the correct answer.
 
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patric44 said:
OK, so you mean the pressure due to the weight of water contained at the z part (##\rho g h_{z}##) will act also along the right side affecting the area ##A_{y}## hence its force = ##\rho g h_{z} A_{y}##, am I correct in this interpretation.
Yes. The pressure at depth h below the surface is ##\rho gh##, regardless of the route. So on y the pressure varies from ##\rho gh_z## at the top of y to ##\rho gh_x## at the bottom.
patric44 said:
the confusing thing also is, if I use integration it gives an equation that is the difference between two values but also outputs the correct answer.
Would that be involving ##h_x## in the difference instead of ##h_y##? If not, please post the details.
 

FAQ: Calculate the average force on the side walls of a container

What is the formula to calculate the average force on the side walls of a container?

The average force on the side walls of a container can be calculated using the formula: \( F = P \times A \), where \( F \) is the force, \( P \) is the pressure, and \( A \) is the area of the side walls.

How do you determine the pressure exerted on the side walls of a container?

The pressure exerted on the side walls of a container can be determined using the ideal gas law: \( P = \frac{nRT}{V} \), where \( P \) is the pressure, \( n \) is the number of moles of gas, \( R \) is the universal gas constant, \( T \) is the temperature in Kelvin, and \( V \) is the volume of the container.

What factors affect the average force on the side walls of a container?

The average force on the side walls of a container is affected by the pressure of the gas inside the container, the temperature of the gas, the volume of the container, and the surface area of the side walls. Any change in these factors will alter the force exerted on the walls.

How does temperature influence the average force on the side walls of a container?

Temperature influences the average force on the side walls of a container because it affects the pressure of the gas. According to the ideal gas law, an increase in temperature (while keeping the volume constant) will increase the pressure, thereby increasing the force on the side walls.

Can the shape of the container affect the average force on the side walls?

Yes, the shape of the container can affect the average force on the side walls because it changes the surface area of the walls. For a given volume and pressure, a container with larger side wall area will experience a greater total force compared to a container with smaller side wall area.

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