Calculate the bouyancy of two spheres joined by a rope submerged in seawater

In summary: In the equation for the lower ball, you're multiplying by the density of seawater which is 1200kg/m3. But the density of the upper ball is 1750kg/m3, so the ball will sink less and rise faster.
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Homework Statement
Spheres in total 2, of equal volume are connected with a ship's rope (is not very long, nevertheless of unknown length, the rope is weightless) in sea water (Rho= 1200kg/m3). Both spheres sink down with constant speed. The lower sphere consists of magnesium (Rho= 1750 kg/m3). Underwater, the ship's rope is now cut. The upper sphere K1 moves with the same constant velocity (as it sank together with the lower sphere) v upwards again. We have not given the radius, the velocity, the mass or the value of the volume, how can we now find out, for example, what the density of the upper sphere is?
Relevant Equations
Fb= rho* g*h
m * g = mAl * g
V * ρ * g = VAl * ρAl * g
V * ρ * g = V * ρAl * g
ρ = ρAl
this does not work at all, because the upper ball must have a density smaller than that of seawater 1200kg/m3 or not?
 
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jnuz73hbn said:
Homework Statement: Spheres in total 2, of equal volume are connected with a ship's rope (is not very long, nevertheless of unknown length, the rope is weightless) in sea water (Rho= 1200kg/m3). Both spheres sink down with constant speed. The lower sphere consists of magnesium (Rho= 1750 kg/m3). Underwater, the ship's rope is now cut. The upper sphere K1 moves with the same constant velocity (as it sank together with the lower sphere) v upwards again. We have not given the radius, the velocity, the mass or the value of the volume, how can we now find out, for example, what the density of the upper sphere is?
Relevant Equations: Fb= rho* g*h

m * g = mAl * g
V * ρ * g = VAl * ρAl * g
V * ρ * g = V * ρAl * g
ρ = ρAl
this does not work at all, because the upper ball must have a density smaller than that of seawater 1200kg/m3 or not?
I think something is off with this question, but maybe I'm mistaken.

What do you get for the EOM of the two sinking spheres ( constant velocity ##v## ), and the EOM for the sphere that rising at ##v##?
 
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erobz said:
I think something is off with this question, but maybe I'm mistaken.

What do you get for the EOM of the two sinking spheres ( constant velocity ##v## ), and the EOM for the sphere that rising at ##v##?
The balls are in equilibrium of forces
 
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jnuz73hbn said:
The balls are in equilibrium of forces
Correct. So what is the EOM that describes the two balls sinking?
 
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Please explain your symbols. You have two situations:

1. balls connected and sinking
2. balls disconnected and one sinking, one rising

set up equations with clear symbols for each ball & case.Use ##\LaTeX##
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jnuz73hbn said:
The balls are in equilibrium of forces
Right, but what are those forces?
 
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erobz said:
I think something is off with this question, but maybe I'm mistaken.
@jnuz73hbn Just so you know the problem is ok, but it's a little sneakier than I originally suspected.
 

FAQ: Calculate the bouyancy of two spheres joined by a rope submerged in seawater

What is the formula for calculating the buoyant force on the spheres?

The buoyant force on each sphere can be calculated using Archimedes' principle, which states that the buoyant force is equal to the weight of the displaced fluid. The formula is: \( F_b = \rho_{seawater} \times V \times g \), where \( \rho_{seawater} \) is the density of seawater, \( V \) is the volume of the sphere, and \( g \) is the acceleration due to gravity.

How do you determine the volume of each sphere?

The volume \( V \) of a sphere can be determined using the formula: \( V = \frac{4}{3} \pi r^3 \), where \( r \) is the radius of the sphere. Measure the radius of each sphere and substitute it into this formula to find the volume.

What factors influence the buoyancy of the spheres joined by a rope?

The buoyancy of the spheres is influenced by the density of seawater, the volume of the spheres, and the depth at which they are submerged. Additionally, the tension in the rope connecting the spheres can affect their relative positions and thus their buoyant forces.

How does the tension in the rope affect the buoyancy calculation?

The tension in the rope affects the equilibrium position of the spheres. If the rope is taut, it can alter the effective buoyant force experienced by each sphere. The net buoyant force on the system will be the sum of the buoyant forces on the individual spheres, adjusted for the tension in the rope.

How do you account for the density of seawater in the calculations?

The density of seawater, \( \rho_{seawater} \), is typically around 1025 kg/m³ but can vary slightly depending on temperature and salinity. Use the appropriate density value for the specific conditions of the seawater where the spheres are submerged to ensure accurate buoyancy calculations.

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