Calculating Charge Needed for Same Binding Energy in H2+

In summary, the conversation discusses the question of what negative charge must be placed between two protons spaced 0.106 nm apart in order to have the same binding energy as the H2+ molecular ion. The person has already calculated the answer for electrons, but is unsure about the answer for protons. They mention using a graph but are not confident in the solution. Another person suggests considering a 3 charge system and asks for the original person to show their work.
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ghallya
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hi I need help in solving this

The protons the H2+ molculer ion are 0.106 nm apart and the binding energy of H2+ is 2.65 ev , what negetive charge must be placed halfway between two protons this distance apart to give the same binding energy?

I calculated it for the electrons , but here i didn know for the protons ?
I tryed to use the graph I had but I don't think its the right solution
so if someone could help me or give an equation I could apply

thanx
 
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Please correct me if I'm wrong...

The two protons repel each other so left to itself, the two proton system is electrostatically unstable. You need a negative charge somewhere between them so that they are both attracted to the -ve charge and effectively stay in place. The binding energy is now defined in terms of the 3 charge system: 2 protons + 1 negative charge. [No other nuclear force is being considered for the mathematical calculations]

Does this help?

PS--Show your work
 
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To calculate the charge needed for the same binding energy in H2+, we can use the equation for Coulomb's law, which states that the force between two charged particles is directly proportional to the product of their charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

In this case, we know the distance between the two protons (0.106 nm) and the desired binding energy (2.65 eV). We also know that the charge of an electron is -1.602 x 10^-19 Coulombs.

Using the equation F = k(q1q2)/r^2, where F is the force, k is the Coulomb constant (8.99 x 10^9 Nm^2/C^2), q1 and q2 are the charges of the two particles, and r is the distance between them, we can calculate the charge needed for the same binding energy.

First, we need to convert the binding energy from eV to Joules. 1 eV is equal to 1.602 x 10^-19 Joules, so the binding energy in Joules is 2.65 x 1.602 x 10^-19 = 4.249 x 10^-19 Joules.

Next, we plug in the values into the equation: 4.249 x 10^-19 = (8.99 x 10^9)(q1)(1.602 x 10^-19)/(0.106 x 10^-9)^2.

Solving for q1, we get q1 = 6.153 x 10^-19 Coulombs.

Therefore, the negative charge needed to be placed halfway between the two protons to give the same binding energy is 6.153 x 10^-19 Coulombs, which is approximately -3.83 times the charge of an electron.

I hope this helps! Please let me know if you have any further questions.
 

FAQ: Calculating Charge Needed for Same Binding Energy in H2+

What is the formula for calculating the charge needed for same binding energy in H2+?

The formula for calculating the charge needed for same binding energy in H2+ is q = (E1 - E2) / (2 * E1).

What do E1 and E2 represent in the formula?

E1 represents the binding energy of the hydrogen atom, while E2 represents the binding energy of the hydrogen ion.

How do you calculate the binding energy of a hydrogen atom?

The binding energy of a hydrogen atom can be calculated using the formula E = -13.6 * (Z^2 / n^2) eV, where Z is the nuclear charge and n is the principal quantum number.

What is the significance of calculating the charge needed for same binding energy in H2+?

Calculating the charge needed for same binding energy in H2+ allows us to determine the stability of the molecule. If the charge needed is negative, it indicates that the molecule is unstable and will dissociate into separate atoms.

Can this calculation be applied to other molecules?

Yes, this calculation can be applied to other diatomic molecules with only one electron, such as He2+ and Li2+. The formula and principles are the same, but the values for nuclear charge and principal quantum number may vary depending on the molecule.

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