Calculating components of a third-quadrant vector

In summary, calculating components of a third-quadrant vector involves determining the vector's direction and magnitude, typically using trigonometric functions. In this quadrant, both the x and y components are negative. To find these components, the angle with respect to the negative x-axis is used, applying cosine for the x-component and sine for the y-component, ensuring the signs reflect the vector's location in the third quadrant.
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Calculate the components of a third quadrant vector C in the following ways:

1. use the angle between the vector and the negative x-axis (delta) and apply right-triangle trigonometry

2. use the angle between the vector and the negative y-axis (epsilon) and apply right-triangle trigonometry

3. use the standard angle for the vector (gamma) - that is, find the connection between gamma and delta in the formulas you found in part 1.

4. use the standard angle for the vector (gamma) - that is, find the connection between gamma and epsilon in the formulas you found in part 2.
Relevant Equations
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)
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1) Correct

2) Wrong. Check yr answer again!

3) What are the generic rules for below:
sin(π + θ) = ?
cos(π + θ) = ?

Apply above result to below to see relation with 1.
Cy = C sin(ϒ) = C sin(π + δ) = ?
Cx = C cos(ϒ) = C cos(π + δ) = ?

4) What are the generic rules for
sin(2π + θ) = ?
cos(2π + θ) = ?
cos(- θ) = ?
sin(- θ) = ?
cos(π/2 + θ) = ?
sin(π/2 + θ) = ?

Apply them to below to see the relation with 2.
Cy = C sin(ϒ) = C sin(3π/2 - ϵ) = C sin(2π – (π/2 + ϵ)) = ?
Cx = C cos(ϒ) = C cos(3π/2 - ϵ) = C cos(2π – (π/2 + ϵ)) = ?
 
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Tomy World said:
1) Correct

2) Wrong. Check yr answer again!

3) What are the generic rules for below:
sin(π + θ) = ?
cos(π + θ) = ?

Apply above result to below to see relation with 1.
Cy = C sin(ϒ) = C sin(π + δ) = ?
Cx = C cos(ϒ) = C cos(π + δ) = ?

4) What are the generic rules for
sin(2π + θ) = ?
cos(2π + θ) = ?
cos(- θ) = ?
sin(- θ) = ?
cos(π/2 + θ) = ?
sin(π/2 + θ) = ?

Apply them to below to see the relation with 2.
Cy = C sin(ϒ) = C sin(3π/2 - ϵ) = C sin(2π – (π/2 + ϵ)) = ?
Cx = C cos(ϒ) = C cos(3π/2 - ϵ) = C cos(2π – (π/2 + ϵ)) = ?
Thanks I've got it now!
 
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FAQ: Calculating components of a third-quadrant vector

What is a third-quadrant vector?

A third-quadrant vector is a vector that lies in the third quadrant of a Cartesian coordinate system, where both the x and y components are negative.

How do you determine the components of a third-quadrant vector?

To determine the components of a third-quadrant vector, you need to know the vector's magnitude and direction. The x and y components can be calculated using trigonometric functions, specifically:\[ x = -|V| \cos(\theta) \]\[ y = -|V| \sin(\theta) \]where \( |V| \) is the magnitude of the vector and \( \theta \) is the angle measured from the positive x-axis.

What is the significance of the angle in calculating the components of a third-quadrant vector?

The angle is crucial because it determines the direction of the vector. For a third-quadrant vector, the angle typically ranges from 180° to 270° (or π to 3π/2 radians). This ensures that both the x and y components are negative.

Can a third-quadrant vector have positive components?

No, a third-quadrant vector cannot have positive components. By definition, both the x and y components of a vector in the third quadrant are negative.

How do you convert a third-quadrant vector from polar to Cartesian coordinates?

To convert a third-quadrant vector from polar to Cartesian coordinates, you use the following formulas:\[ x = -r \cos(\theta) \]\[ y = -r \sin(\theta) \]where \( r \) is the magnitude of the vector and \( \theta \) is the angle in standard position (between 180° and 270° or π and 3π/2 radians). This ensures that the resulting x and y components are negative, placing the vector in the third quadrant.

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