Calculating Force on a Pivoting Object for a Fold Away Bed

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In summary, the conversation discusses the process of constructing a fold away bed and determining the force exerted at a certain point on a pivoting object. The use of gas springs is mentioned to cushion the weight of the bed in movement, and the need to provide the manufacturers with the force exerted on them is highlighted. The conversation also suggests researching "Moments" or "Torques" for further information and provides a formula for calculating the force needed for the gas springs based on the distance from the pivot point.
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Hi folks, this isn't homework, but its a homework type question so I thought this was the best place to post it.

I am in the process of constructing something that requires me to figure out the force exerted at a certain point on a pivoting object. It is a fold away bed.

The matress and the frame it sits in all need to pivot on a steel bar, folding up to the wall and down from the wall. To make the motion less dangerous I am using two gas springs to cushion the weight of the bed in movement. To order the Gas Springs I need to let the manufacturers know the force that will be exerted on them so they can be made to spec.

I am looking for some help with regard to how I figure out the wieght, with regard to the location of the pivot point, that is exterted. Hopefully this picture will help.

Thanks in advance,
Gaz

http://www.phatjerusalem.com/files/bedexample.jpg
 
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You need to google for "Moments" or "Torques" :smile:
 
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The torque that Hoot is referring to is the force multiplied by the distance from the pivot. So to lift the bed, it takes twice as much force if you are lifting at the hafway point of the bed as opposed to lifting it at the foot.

And for your gas springs, since they are much closer to the pivot point, they will have to provide a larger force than if they were somehow located at the foot of the bed. So for an initial SWAG at the spring values, measure the force that it takes to lift the foot of the bed, cut that in half (so the springs will support half of the bed weight when it is horizontal), and then ratio that force up by the ratio of the distance from the pivot to the foot of the bed divided by the distance from the pivot to the spring connection point.
 

FAQ: Calculating Force on a Pivoting Object for a Fold Away Bed

How do you calculate the force on a pivoting object for a fold away bed?

To calculate the force on a pivoting object for a fold away bed, you will need to know the weight of the bed, the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass of the bed, and the angle at which the bed is being held up. You can then use the formula F = mgLsinθ, where F is the force, m is the mass, g is the acceleration due to gravity, L is the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass, and θ is the angle at which the bed is being held up.

What is the pivot point on a fold away bed?

The pivot point on a fold away bed is the point at which the bed is attached to the wall or frame that allows it to fold up and down. This point is often located near the center of the bed.

How does the angle affect the force on a fold away bed?

The angle at which the fold away bed is being held up will affect the force on the bed. The greater the angle, the greater the force will be required to keep the bed in place. This is because the weight of the bed is acting at a greater distance from the pivot point, increasing the moment arm and therefore the torque.

Can you calculate the force on a fold away bed if the weight is not evenly distributed?

Yes, you can still calculate the force on a fold away bed if the weight is not evenly distributed. In this case, you will need to determine the center of mass of the bed and use the distance from the pivot point to the center of mass in the formula F = mgLsinθ. This will give you the total force required to keep the bed in place.

How is the force on a fold away bed affected by the weight of the bed?

The force on a fold away bed is directly proportional to the weight of the bed. This means that the heavier the bed, the greater the force will be required to hold it in place. It is important to take the weight of the bed into consideration when calculating the force on a fold away bed to ensure that the supporting structure can handle the weight.

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