Calculating Heat Transfer Rate in a Changing System

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of determining the "heating power" of a substance with a known specific heat and mass when placed onto another object with a different specific heat and mass. The process involves finding the rate at which energy is being absorbed by the object and using Newton's Law of Cooling to calculate the temperature after a specific amount of time. However, this process becomes more complicated when dealing with forced convection, where the heat transfer coefficient of the object in that particular medium must also be considered. This value is highly specific to the material, geometry, and flow characteristics, making it difficult to determine for a specific object.
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Is there a way to determine the "heating power" of a substance with a known specific heat and mass, onto another object of another known specific heat and mass.

Say if I had a tank of water and dropped in a piece of metal for example, let the metal heat up, but not let the system come to equilibrium.
Now I want to figure out the temperature of the metal chunk after X amount of seconds in the water. So I would need to find the rate at which energy is being absorbed from the water into the metal.
How? I haven't don't these types of problems in years, and even then, the question had, "and the system is let to reach equilibrium" line at the end.

Now let's take it a step further,
insead of a closed system with a set amount of "hot" and "cold" mass, say one or both of those were moving past each other, like hot steam traveling through a condenser, or hot water moving through a pipe in a bucket of cold water.
 
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You are dealing with a forced convection problem, for which you need to know the heat transfer coefficient of the metal object in that particular medium. Knowing this number, the problem just becomes one of writing out Newton's Law of Cooling (in this case, "heating") and plugging in numbers.

The problem with the heat transfer coefficient is that it is highly specific to the material, its geometry, the medium surrounding it, and the flow characteristics.

In general, the temperature of the object will exponentially approach the temperature of the surroundings, the time constant depending on the extent of "thermal contact" between object and surroundings.
 
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So it would seem the problem is considerably more dificult than I oringally had figured.
While looking more into heat transfer coefficients, it seems like there are so many variables that could influence the final value, you almost have to determine it yourself for a particular object, which almost defeats the point of having it.
 

FAQ: Calculating Heat Transfer Rate in a Changing System

What is the definition of heating power?

The heating power of a substance refers to its ability to absorb and transfer heat energy. It is a measure of how well a substance can store and release thermal energy.

How is heating power measured?

The heating power of a substance is typically measured in units of joules per gram per degree Celsius (J/g·°C). This is also known as specific heat capacity and represents the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one gram of a substance by one degree Celsius.

What factors affect the heating power of a substance?

The heating power of a substance can be affected by several factors, including its molecular structure, phase (solid, liquid, or gas), and temperature. Substances with stronger molecular bonds tend to have higher heating power, while those with weaker bonds have lower heating power.

Why is understanding heating power important?

Understanding the heating power of a substance is important in various fields of science, including chemistry, physics, and engineering. It helps us predict how a substance will react to changes in temperature and how much energy will be required for heating or cooling processes.

How does heating power impact our daily lives?

The heating power of substances plays a significant role in our daily lives. For example, it affects the cooking process, as different foods have different heating powers and require varying amounts of heat energy. It also impacts the efficiency of heating and cooling systems in our homes and buildings, as well as the performance of electronic devices that generate heat.

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