Calculating Max Power at Chute-Montmorency

In summary, the conversation discusses estimating the maximum power that a hydroelectric plant located at the bottom of Chute-Montmorency falls would provide. The necessary equations and variables are provided and used to determine the power, which is calculated to be 6917002.427 Joules or 6917 KJ. The conversation also considers the relationship between flow rate, density, and mass flow rate, and concludes that the time it takes for the water to fall does not affect the power output of the plant due to conservation of mass and energy.
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Homework Statement



At the Chute-Montmorency, water falls from a height of 83m. The average flow rate of the river is 35000 liters per second. Estimate the maximum power that a hydroelectric plant located at the bottom of the falls would provide.

Homework Equations



P = W/T

W = F x d

The Attempt at a Solution



W = (35000 x 9.8)(83)

To solve for time for water to fall:

d = (0.5)(a)(t^2)
83 = (0.5)(9.8)(t^2)
t = 4.12 seconds

Power = (35000 x 9.8 x 83) / (4.12 seconds)

Power = 6917002.427 Joules or 6917 KJ.

I am not entirely sure if this is right.
 
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They give you the volumetric flow rate as 35,000 L/s, what is the density of water and hence the mass flow rate of the water?

Now you are correct in that W=Fxd and F=mg to give you W=mgh (which is really saying that the energy is via gravitational potential energy).

Power = Work done/time

So P = W/t = (mgh)/t = (m/t)gh

and m/t is the flow rate you calculated above.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
They give you the volumetric flow rate as 35,000 L/s, what is the density of water and hence the mass flow rate of the water?

Now you are correct in that W=Fxd and F=mg to give you W=mgh (which is really saying that the energy is via gravitational potential energy).

Power = Work done/time

So P = W/t = (mgh)/t = (m/t)gh

and m/t is the flow rate you calculated above.

Yes, but wouldn't the time it takes for the water to get to the bottom make a difference in the power.
 
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PVnRT81 said:
Yes, but wouldn't the time it takes for the water to get to the bottom make a difference in the power.

Due to conservation of mass and energy, the flow rate at the top would be the flow rate at the bottom otherwise, the water would not be flowing through the hydroelectric plant.

And Power = Work done/time

the time in this case would be the duration in which the work is being done while the water is falling, no work is being done on the turbine within the hydroelectric plant so there will be no output of power from the plant.
 
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I would first verify the given information, such as the height of the falls and the flow rate of the river, to ensure accuracy in my calculations. Then, I would use the equations provided to calculate the potential power at the Chute-Montmorency.

From the given information, we can calculate the potential energy of the falling water using the equation W = mgh, where m is the mass of the water, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and h is the height of the falls.

W = (35000 kg/s)(9.8 m/s^2)(83 m) = 28,882,000 J

To calculate the power, we can use the equation P = W/t, where t is the time it takes for the water to fall.

To find t, we can use the equation d = 0.5at^2, where d is the height of the falls and a is the acceleration due to gravity.

83 m = 0.5(9.8 m/s^2)(t^2)
t = 4.12 seconds

Therefore, the maximum power provided by the falls is:

P = 28,882,000 J / 4.12 s = 7,006,796.12 watts or 7,006.8 kW.

This calculation assumes ideal conditions and does not take into account factors such as efficiency of the hydroelectric plant. It also assumes that the entire flow rate of the river is used to generate power, which may not be the case in reality. Further calculations and considerations would be needed to accurately estimate the maximum power that a hydroelectric plant at Chute-Montmorency could provide.
 

FAQ: Calculating Max Power at Chute-Montmorency

What is the significance of calculating the max power at Chute-Montmorency?

Calculating the max power at Chute-Montmorency is important for understanding the potential energy of the water at the waterfall. This information is useful for hydroelectric power generation and assessing the overall power potential of the waterfall.

How is the max power at Chute-Montmorency calculated?

The max power at Chute-Montmorency is calculated by multiplying the flow rate of water by the height of the waterfall and the acceleration due to gravity. This formula is known as the power equation (P = mgh), where P is power, m is mass, g is acceleration due to gravity, and h is height.

What factors affect the max power at Chute-Montmorency?

The max power at Chute-Montmorency is affected by several factors, including the flow rate of water, the height of the waterfall, and the efficiency of the power generation system. Other factors such as the density of water and the gravitational acceleration may also have a minor impact on the calculation.

How is the flow rate of water measured at Chute-Montmorency?

The flow rate of water at Chute-Montmorency can be measured using various methods, such as using a flow meter or measuring the area and velocity of the water. The most accurate measurement is usually obtained by using a flow meter, which measures the volume of water passing through a specific point in a given time.

Can the max power at Chute-Montmorency change over time?

Yes, the max power at Chute-Montmorency can change over time due to various natural and human factors. Changes in the flow rate of water, the height of the waterfall, or the efficiency of the power generation system can all affect the max power at Chute-Montmorency. Additionally, environmental factors such as droughts or heavy rainfall can also impact the max power calculation.

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