Calculating q, w, H, and U for an Ideal Gas at 25°C and 100kPa

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In summary, at 25 degrees Celsius and 100 kPa, a reversible isothermal process expands reversibly and isothermally to 5 kPa. The energy change is ΔU=q+w-pextΔV and the enthalpy change is ΔH=ΔU+pΔV.
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Homework Statement


An ideal gas at 25degree celcius and 100kPa is allowed to expand reversibly and isothermally to 5kPa. Calculate..
1) w per mol (J/mol)
2) q per mol (J/mol)
3) change in molar internal energy U (J/mol)
4) change in molar enthalpy H (J/mol)


Homework Equations



ΔU = q + w
= q - pextΔV
ΔH = ΔU +p ΔV
= ΔU + ΔngasRT
PV=nRT
Um(T)=3/2RT

The Attempt at a Solution



I absolutely have no idea how to do this question. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Welcome to the forum.
Hint:
A reversible isothermal process is a polytropic process where PV^n = constant. What is n for this kind of process?
 
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I am thinking this question should include a molar volume? (molar volume = V/n, which changes the ideal gas law as P(molar volume) = RT?)

n is constant for this kind of process? but that sounds weird.. sorry I am lost..

Also, since it is an isothermal process, would molar U be 0?
 
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Welcome to PF, chocolatepie! :smile:

An isothermal process is one in which T is constant.
So molar U will not be zero, but constant.
In other words: ΔU=0.

With constant T=To, you get for one mole: PV=RTo.

To calculate w you need to integrate dw=-PdV.
Do you know how to do that?
 
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I assuming we need to use Wrev= nRT ln (P2/P1) to solve.
However, we were not given n value...?

PS. And thanks everyone for the warm welcome to PF :D
 
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chocolatepie said:
I assuming we need to use Wrev= nRT ln (P2/P1) to solve.

Yep. That will work.


chocolatepie said:
However, we were not given n value...?

n is the number of moles.
The question asks to calculate "per mol".
This means you should calculate using n=1 mol.


chocolatepie said:
PS. And thanks everyone for the warm welcome to PF :D

You're welcome! :wink:
 
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n is the number of moles.
The question asks to calculate "per mol".
This means you should calculate using n=1 mol.

oh, OK!
And for part (d) where I need to calculate for the change of molar enthalpy, should I use ΔH = qp to solve? or ΔH = ΔU + pΔV?

I just don't know when to use each formula..
 
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chocolatepie said:
oh, OK!
And for part (d) where I need to calculate for the change of molar enthalpy, should I use ΔH = qp to solve? or ΔH = ΔU + pΔV?

I just don't know when to use each formula.

Actually, neither formula.
Both have conditions attached.

ΔH = qp only holds in an isobaric process.
ΔH = ΔU + pΔV also only holds in an isobaric process (is this really the formula you have?)

What else do you have for ΔH?
 
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The note at the bottom of the question says that the expansion does not occur at constant pressure. Thus, iti s not OK to use ΔH = ΔU + pΔV.
I am not sure why the note says "constant pressure" when the question itself says "constant temperature" :-O

I have one that includes heat capacity..? H=CpT (subscript p = const P)
But I don't have the heat capacity given in the question, so I didn't use it.
 
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chocolatepie said:
The note at the bottom of the question says that the expansion does not occur at constant pressure. Thus, iti s not OK to use ΔH = ΔU + pΔV.
I am not sure why the note says "constant pressure" when the question itself says "constant temperature" :-O

I have one that includes heat capacity..? H=CpT (subscript p = const P)
But I don't have the heat capacity given in the question, so I didn't use it.

In your relevant equations you have:
ΔH = ΔU + ΔngasRT
(Works only for ideal gasses.)

What about that one?Btw, Cp=Cv+R for ideal gasses.
And ΔH = ΔU + Δ(PV) is true in general.
 
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Aha, now I got it. Yes there was a formula on my note.
Thank you so much!
 
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See you! :smile:
 

FAQ: Calculating q, w, H, and U for an Ideal Gas at 25°C and 100kPa

What is the difference between q and w?

The main difference between q and w is that q represents heat, while w represents work. Heat is the transfer of energy from one object to another due to a temperature difference, while work is the transfer of energy due to a force acting on an object.

How do you calculate q?

To calculate q, you need to know the mass of the object, the specific heat capacity of the material, and the change in temperature. The formula for calculating q is q = m * c * ΔT, where m is the mass, c is the specific heat capacity, and ΔT is the change in temperature.

How do you calculate w?

To calculate w, you need to know the force acting on the object and the distance over which the force is applied. The formula for calculating w is w = F * d, where F is the force and d is the distance.

What is the enthalpy change (ΔH) in a thermodynamic process?

The enthalpy change (ΔH) in a thermodynamic process is the amount of heat added to or removed from a system at constant pressure. It is given by the formula ΔH = q + PΔV, where q is the heat added or removed, P is the pressure, and ΔV is the change in volume.

How do you calculate the internal energy (U) of a system?

The internal energy (U) of a system can be calculated by adding the heat (q) and work (w) done on or by the system. The formula for calculating internal energy is U = q + w.

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