Calculating specific heat capacity from entropy

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving calculating the specific heat capacity at constant pressure and volume using given equations and variables. It is suggested to use an equation of state to simplify the calculations.
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Homework Statement
Given the entropy S of system, calculate the specific heat capacity C_V and C_p
Relevant Equations
$$C_P=T \left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{N,P}$$ and
$$C_V=T \left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{N,V}$$
Hey guys! I'm currently struggling with a specific thermodynamics problem.
I'm given the entropy of a system (where ##A## is a constant with fitting physical units): $$S(U,V,N)=A(UVN)^{1/3}$$I'm asked to calculate the specific heat capacity at constant pressure ##C_p## and at constant volume ##C_V##.
I know that the two are given by the following equation:
$$C_P=T \left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{N,P}$$$$C_V=T \left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{N,V}$$I've tried to eleminate ##U## from the equation by calculating: $$\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial V}\right)=\frac{P}{T}=\frac{1}{3}(NU)^{1/3}V^{-2/3}$$ Solving for ##U## and plugging it back into the original equation gives me: $$S(P,V,T)=\frac{PV}{T}$$
I don't know if my steps were correct so far but what I'm now struggling with is calculating ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{P}## and ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{V}##. For me they would be both equal to $$\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)=-\frac{PV}{T^2}$$ But I don't think that is correct because the relationship $$C_P-C_V=\frac{TV\alpha_P^2}{\kappa_T}$$ needs to bet true.

It would be awesome if anyone could help me out with this one and point me in the right direction. Thank you!
 
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Looks like you dropped a factor of 3 in getting to the equation ##S = \frac{PV}{T}##.

I don't know if my steps were correct so far but what I'm now struggling with is calculating ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{P}## and ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{V}##. For me they would be both equal to $$\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)=-\frac{PV}{T^2}$$

When calculating ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{P}## you can't treat ##V## as a constant. Likewise when calculating ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{V}## you can't treat ##P## as a constant.

One way to proceed is to find the equation of state that relates the 3 variables ##P##, ##V##, and ##T##. You can then use this to write ##S## as a function of just ##T## and ##P## which then makes it straightforward to evaluate ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{P}##. Or, you can write ##S## as a function of just ##T## and ##V## so that you can evaluate ##\left(\frac{\partial S}{\partial T}\right)_{V}##. I don't know if this is the best way, but it's one way.
 
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