Calculating the area of regions between two curves

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When calculating the area of regions between two curves, why do we igone that they have crossed x-axis, and simply use the formula of (definite integral of upper function - definit integral of lower function)? dosen't the area under x-axis region become negative?
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You want the area in the physical sense of the word, i.e., a positive quantity. You will calculate f(x)-g(x), which will be bigger if g(x) < 0 as the two negative signs will make a plus. As you can see in the figure, this is what you want because in the region where g(x) is below zero the area is greater than the area delimited by f(x) down to y = 0.
 
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Ohh so essentially the definit inetgral wouldn't take the diffrence between the area under x-axis and the area above x-axis?
 
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Saba said:
Ohh so essentially the definit inetgral wouldn't take the diffrence between the area under x-axis and the area above x-axis?
I'm not sure I understan what you mean here.

I think that you have to be careful about the use of the expression "area under the curve" to explain the integral. If you take
$$
\int_0^{2 \pi} \sin x \, dx = 0
$$
you get zero because the integral over ##(0,\pi)## cancels out the integral over ##(\pi,2 \pi)##. But if you are interested in the (surface) area between the sine curve and the x-axis, i.e., between ##f(x) = sin(x)## and ##g(x) = 0##,
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then you have to consider that two functions cross at ##x = \pi## and the result will be
$$
\int_0^{\pi} (\sin x - 0) \, dx + \int_{\pi}^{2 \pi} (0 - \sin x) \, dx = 4
$$
 
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Saba said:
Ohh so essentially the definit inetgral wouldn't take the diffrence between the area under x-axis and the area above x-axis?
The definite integral between the curves y=0 to y=f(x) DOES distinguish between above versus below the x-axis. It will give you the area above minus the area below. But a definite integral between the curves y=g(x) to y=f(x) only distinguishes between f(x) being above g(x) versus f(x) being below g(x). So that is the only thing you need to worry about in the original post.
 
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I don't think this has been mentioned. Given your drawing in post #1, the total area, ##A_1 + A_2## (if that's what you're after) will require two integrals.

The first integral, whose value is ##A_1##, is ##\int_{-3}^0 f(x) - g(x)\,dx##. The second integral, whose value is ##A_2##, is ##\int_0^{2?} f(x) - g(x)\,dx## for the reason that on that interval ##f(x) \ge g(x)##. I've estimated the right-hand endpoint of that interval, since your drawing doesn't show it.
 
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FAQ: Calculating the area of regions between two curves

What is the basic formula for calculating the area between two curves?

The basic formula for calculating the area between two curves, \( f(x) \) and \( g(x) \), from \( x = a \) to \( x = b \), is given by the integral: \( \int_{a}^{b} [f(x) - g(x)] \, dx \). This formula assumes that \( f(x) \) is the upper curve and \( g(x) \) is the lower curve over the interval \([a, b]\).

How do you determine the points of intersection between two curves?

To determine the points of intersection between two curves, \( f(x) \) and \( g(x) \), you need to solve the equation \( f(x) = g(x) \). The solutions to this equation will give you the \( x \)-coordinates of the points where the curves intersect. These points are often used as the limits of integration when calculating the area between the curves.

What if the curves intersect within the interval of integration?

If the curves intersect within the interval of integration, you need to split the integral at the points of intersection. For example, if the curves intersect at \( x = c \) within the interval \([a, b]\), you would calculate the area as the sum of two integrals: \( \int_{a}^{c} [f(x) - g(x)] \, dx + \int_{c}^{b} [g(x) - f(x)] \, dx \), where the roles of \( f(x) \) and \( g(x) \) switch at \( x = c \).

How do you handle vertical asymptotes when calculating the area between curves?

When dealing with vertical asymptotes, you need to carefully consider the behavior of the functions near the asymptotes. If an asymptote lies within the interval of integration, you may need to split the integral at the asymptote and take the limit as you approach the asymptote. For example, if there is a vertical asymptote at \( x = c \) within the interval \([a, b]\), you would calculate the area as \( \lim_{\epsilon \to 0} \left( \int_{a}^{c-\epsilon} [f(x) - g(x)] \, dx + \int_{c+\epsilon}^{b} [f(x) - g(x)] \, dx \right) \).

Can you use polar coordinates to find the area between curves?

Yes, you can use polar coordinates to find the area between curves if the curves are given in polar form. The formula for the area between two curves \( r = f(\

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