Calculating the flux of a vector field

In summary, calculating the flux of a vector field involves determining the quantity of the field that passes through a given surface. This is done by integrating the dot product of the vector field and the surface normal vector over the surface area. The flux can be influenced by the orientation and shape of the surface, and it can provide insights into physical phenomena such as flow rates in fluid dynamics and electric field behavior in electromagnetism. The mathematical formulation typically involves the use of line integrals or surface integrals, depending on the context and dimensionality of the problem.
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Q.18. The flux of the vector field ##\vec{F}=(x+y) \hat{i}+(x-3 y) \hat{j}+x y \hat{k}## through the surface defined by the equation ##x^{2}+y^{2} \leq a^{2}, x>0, y>0##, will be
(a) ##a^{4} / 8##
(b) ##a^{4} / 4##
(c) ##a^{2} / 8##
(d) ##a^{2} / 4##
Relevant Equations
##\vec{F}=(x+y) \hat{i}+(x-3 y) \hat{j}+x y \hat{k}##
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The answer is ##\frac{a^2}{8}## and for the love of my life, I don't know how. Can you please help me with this?
 
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[tex]\int_S xy dS= \int_0^a r^2 rdr \int_0^\frac{\pi}{2} \sin\theta \cos \theta d\theta[/tex]
Azimuthal integration gives 1/2.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
[tex]\int_S xy dS= \int_0^a r^2 rdr \int_0^\frac{\pi}{2} \sin\theta \cos \theta d\theta[/tex]
Azimuthal integration gives 1/2.
I am DOUBT! azimuthal integration is a new phrase for me. I think it's the equivalent of what I learnt as integration using spherical co-ordinates, but still, I don't see how you can get 1/2 there. Also, isn't dr 0? We are integrating with radius r as constant (a). We are given a surface [tex]x^2 + y^2 \leq a^2[/tex]
 
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I think$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^a xy ~dx~dy$$should actually be$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^{\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx$$
And on 'dimensional' grounds, I think the answer should be a multiple of ##a^4## rather than ##a^2##. So the 'official answer' might be wrong.
 
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I think$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^a xy ~dx~dy$$should actually be$$\int_{x=0}^a \int_{y=0}^{\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx$$
And on 'dimensional' grounds, I think the answer should be a multiple of ##a^4## rather than ##a^2##. So the 'official answer' might be wrong.
can you please explain the limits of the integral more? I mean, I put a as the limit of the integral as it's a part of a circle we are talking about here, why are you putting a different limit?

edit: Damn! Yes! It's a circle we are talking about, I seem to have calculated the area of a square. Yes?
 
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edit: Damn! Yes! It's a circle we are talking about, I seem to have calculated the area of a square. Yes?
Yes!
 
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Slimy0233 said:
can you please explain the limits of the integral more? I mean, I put a as the limit of the integral as it's a part of a circle we are talking about here, why are you putting a different limit?
Draw ##xy## axes and the 1st quadrant.

Draw a thin vertical ‘elementary’ strip of thickness ##dx## for some value of ##x## inside the quadrant. Note:
- the left side of the strip has x-coordinate ##x##;
- the right side of the strip has x-coordinate ##x+dx##;
- the bottom edge of the strip is a has y-coordinate = 0;
- the top edge of the strip has y-coordinate ##\sqrt {a^2-x^2}## (that’s the key point).

When you integrate ##xy## over the elementary strip you get ##\int_{y=0}^{y=\sqrt {a^2-x^2}} xy~ dy~dx##. (Then it remains to integrate the contributions from all the strips.)

Can you take t from there?
 
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Can you take t from there?
It was very kind of you to explain that well and that much!

I can take it from there, thank you! I managed to solve it.
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FAQ: Calculating the flux of a vector field

What is the flux of a vector field?

The flux of a vector field through a surface is a measure of how much of the field passes through that surface. Mathematically, it is the surface integral of the vector field over the given surface. It quantifies the "flow" of the field through the surface.

How do you calculate the flux of a vector field through a surface?

To calculate the flux of a vector field **F** through a surface **S**, you use the surface integral:
\[ \text{Flux} = \iint_S \mathbf{F} \cdot d\mathbf{S} \]where \( d\mathbf{S} \) is a vector normal to the surface element with a magnitude equal to the area of the surface element. In Cartesian coordinates, this can be expressed as:\[ \text{Flux} = \iint_S \mathbf{F} \cdot \mathbf{n} \, dA \]where \( \mathbf{n} \) is the unit normal vector to the surface and \( dA \) is the differential area element.

What is the significance of the orientation of the surface in flux calculations?

The orientation of the surface is crucial because the flux calculation depends on the direction of the normal vector. If the surface is oriented in the opposite direction, the flux will have the opposite sign. The orientation determines whether the flux is considered positive (flowing out of the surface) or negative (flowing into the surface).

Can the flux of a vector field be zero? Under what conditions?

Yes, the flux of a vector field through a surface can be zero. This occurs when the vector field is tangent to the surface everywhere, or when the net flow of the field into the surface equals the net flow out. For a closed surface, if the vector field is divergence-free (having zero divergence), the flux through the surface will also be zero.

What is the difference between flux through an open surface and a closed surface?

When calculating flux through an open surface, you are measuring how much of the vector field passes through that specific surface area. For a closed surface, you are measuring the net flow of the vector field out of the enclosed volume. The flux through a closed surface is often related to the divergence of the vector field inside the volume, as stated by the Divergence Theorem, which relates the flux through a closed surface to the volume integral of the divergence of the field within the surface.

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