Can a falling feather inside a rocket ship create a black hole?

In summary: But since the bottom half of the ship is still inside the Schwarzschild radius, the observer on the bottom half of the ship would still see the black hole.
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Ray Eston Smith Jr
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I'm in a rocket ship hovering at a non-black-hole Schwarzschild radius. The bottom half of my ship is inside the radius. I drop a straw. As the straw crosses the Schwarzschild radius, at mid-ship, it adds just enough mass within the radius to form a black hole. What would I see? Would the bottom half of my ship suddenly black out?
 
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If the Schwarzschild radius of the mass is inside the bounds of mass itself (i.e. it's not compact enough to be a black hole), you'd have to be doing something pretty magical to be hovering above it -- you'd be in it.

- Warren
 
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I don't understand your response. The bottom half of my spaceship is part of the interior mass. The top half, with me and the feather, is part of the exterior mass. I drop the feather and it falls to the bottom half which is inside the radius. That additional interior mass is just enough to make the black hole form. So what happens next?
- Ray
 
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The first sentence of your post is a contradiction due to you using the wrong definition of a black hole: if it has a Schwarzschild radius, then it already is a black hole. More on this in your other thread...
 
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Too convenient. You would never see the 'straw' hit the event horizon. A time dilation thing.
 
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Okay, you say the straw would "freeze" above the event horizon. But what about the bottom half of my spaceship? Would I have a breached hull? Would I be torn apart by tidal forces? All this because I dropped a straw? What about an observer on the other side of the radius? When I dropped the straw would his side of the sphere instantly become an event horizon (allowing me to use the straw in the hole to send a faster-than-light message) or would the event horizon formation spread from my side to his side at the speed of light? If he withdrew matter from the far side before the event horizon wrapped around it, would the event horizon then unwrap back around to me, telling me that it's not really a black hole after all? (These difficulties would not occur if the event horizon at a spatial radius of zero.)
 
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If the feather were to fall on something and add just enough mass to that thing so that it collapses and forms a BH, then the EH of that BH would beb less than the original radious of the mass before the feather landed, wouldn't it?

So you couldn't have the feather fall onto the mass and make it collapse unless the original mass was inside your ship. If that were the case, then the mass that was occupying some amount of space inside your ship would now be replaced by a BH occupying less space inside your ship.
 

FAQ: Can a falling feather inside a rocket ship create a black hole?

Can any object become a black hole if it reaches a certain size?

No, not all objects can become black holes. In order for an object to become a black hole, it must have a huge amount of mass packed into a very small space. This is known as the critical density, and it is not achievable by most objects.

What is the last straw that triggers the formation of a black hole?

The last straw that triggers the formation of a black hole is when the object's core collapses under its own gravitational force, causing it to become infinitely dense. This is known as the singularity, and it is the point where the object becomes a black hole.

How does the size of the black hole's event horizon relate to its mass?

The size of a black hole's event horizon, also known as the point of no return, is directly proportional to its mass. The more massive the black hole, the larger its event horizon will be.

Can a black hole form from a single object, or does it require multiple objects to merge?

A black hole can form from a single object, such as a massive star, but it can also form from the merger of multiple objects. This can happen when two or more stars orbit each other and eventually collide, creating a black hole.

Is there a limit to how big a black hole can grow?

There is no known limit to how big a black hole can grow. As long as it continues to consume matter, its mass will continue to increase. However, there is a theoretical upper limit known as the Eddington limit, which is the point at which the black hole's gravity would overcome all other forces, causing it to become unstable.

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