Can a Train Be Stopped Without Crate Slippage at High Speeds?

In summary, the conversation is discussing a problem involving a railroad flatcar loaded with crates and the coefficient of static friction with the floor. The question is how short a distance the train can be stopped at a constant acceleration without causing the crates to slide. It is mentioned that the mass is not given, but it is not necessary for solving the problem and can be represented as 'm'. The forum rules state that assistance should only be given after the questioner has shown some effort in solving the problem.
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seankir92
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Friction without mass, help!

the question is this as quoted. "A railroad flatcar is loaded with crates having a coefficient of static friction of 0.25 with the floor. if the train is moving at 48 km/h, in how short a distance can the train be stopped at a constant acceleration without causing the crates to slide?"

As far as i can tell, i would need the mass to do this question. maybe I am missing something? this is a problem my professor wrote up so I believe it MAY be possible he forgot to give us mass, but then again I do recall doing something similar to this a while back.

Thanks!
-Sean
 
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seankir92 said:
the question is this as quoted. "A railroad flatcar is loaded with crates having a coefficient of static friction of 0.25 with the floor. if the train is moving at 48 km/h, in how short a distance can the train be stopped at a constant acceleration without causing the crates to slide?"

As far as i can tell, i would need the mass to do this question. maybe I am missing something? this is a problem my professor wrote up so I believe it MAY be possible he forgot to give us mass, but then again I do recall doing something similar to this a while back.

Thanks!
-Sean

You don't need the mass. If you don't know it just call it 'm' and work the problem from there. It will cancel from your answer.
 
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could you work the problem for me possibly?
 
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seankir92 said:
could you work the problem for me possibly?

No, that's not how the forum works. Dick gave you a very good hint - now try to describe it with equations.
 
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seankir92 said:
could you work the problem for me possibly?
As Borek said, that's not how it works here. The Homework Help Guidelines (in the PF rules - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=414380) says:
On helping with questions: Any and all assistance given to homework assignments or textbook style exercises should be given only after the questioner has shown some effort in solving the problem. If no attempt is made then the questioner should be asked to provide one before any assistance is given. Under no circumstances should complete solutions be provided to a questioner, whether or not an attempt has been made.
 

FAQ: Can a Train Be Stopped Without Crate Slippage at High Speeds?

What is friction without mass?

Friction without mass refers to the force of resistance between two surfaces that are in contact with each other, even if there is no mass present. This is because friction is caused by the roughness of the surfaces, not the mass of the objects.

How does friction without mass affect motion?

Friction without mass can affect motion by slowing it down or causing it to stop completely. This is because the force of friction acts in the opposite direction of the motion, causing a decrease in velocity.

What are some real-life examples of friction without mass?

Some examples of friction without mass include the sliding of a book on a table, the movement of a car's tires on the road, and the rubbing of your hands together. In all of these cases, there is no mass involved, but friction still occurs.

How is friction without mass calculated?

The force of friction without mass can be calculated using the equation F = μN, where F is the force of friction, μ is the coefficient of friction, and N is the normal force between the two surfaces in contact.

How can friction without mass be reduced?

Friction without mass can be reduced by using lubricants, such as oil or grease, between two surfaces, or by making the surfaces smoother. This reduces the roughness of the surfaces and decreases the force of friction.

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