Can Any Continuous Coordinate Transformation Be a Local Poincare Transformation?

In summary: First tell me your definition of a poincare transformation on a one-dimensional manifold. I am really curious!A Poincare transformation is a continuous coordinate transformation that preserves the orientation of vectors in its domain.
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micomaco86572
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Can any continuous coordinate transformation on a differential manifold be viewed as a poincare transformation locally in every tangent space of this manifold?

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No. Say your manifold is the real line, and your coordinate transformation is [itex]x\rightarrow 2x[/itex]. That's not a Poincare transformation.
 
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yeah, I see. But if we exclude this scale transformation, can we still say the coordinate transformation could be viewed as the local poincare transformation?
 
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arkajad said:
This is what you do in gauge theories of the Poincare group.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/qv46n02uq4301315/" by K. Pilch.

Yeah,so I am thinking about whether the local poincare transformation includes all the continuous coordinate transformations except the scale transformation mentioned above.
 
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micomaco86572 said:
Yeah,so I am thinking about whether the local poincare transformation includes all the continuous coordinate transformations except the scale transformation mentioned above.

No. The Poincare group isn't even well defined on a generic manifold (e.g., one that has the wrong number of dimensions).
 
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Infinitesimally, we can expand a vector field (infinitesimal diffeomorphism) as:

[tex]\xi(x+h)^\mu =\xi^\mu (x)+a^\mu_\nu h^\nu +...[/tex]

To kill the unwanted degrees of freedom we impose the condition of "no scalings" which amounts to assuming that [tex]a^\mu_\nu[/tex] is a Lorentz matrix.
 
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arkajad said:
Infinitesimally, we can expand a vector field (infinitesimal diffeomorphism) as:

[tex]\xi(x+h)^\mu =\xi^\mu (x)+a^\mu_\nu h^\nu +...[/tex]

To kill the unwanted degrees of freedom we impose the condition of "no scalings" which amounts to assuming that [tex]a^\mu_\nu[/tex] is a Lorentz matrix.

Are you claiming that this works on a one-dimensional manifold? If not, then what conditions do you propose adding in addition to the ones given by the OP?
 
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bcrowell said:
Are you claiming that this works on a one-dimensional manifold?

First tell me your definition of a poincare transformation on a one-dimensional manifold. I am really curious!
 

FAQ: Can Any Continuous Coordinate Transformation Be a Local Poincare Transformation?

What is the Local Poincare Transformation?

The Local Poincare Transformation is a mathematical concept used in physics to describe the behavior of physical systems under changes in reference frames. It is based on the principles of relativity and is used to understand the effects of motion on space and time.

How is the Local Poincare Transformation different from the Global Poincare Transformation?

The Global Poincare Transformation describes the transformation of space and time between two inertial reference frames, while the Local Poincare Transformation takes into account the changes in space and time at each point in a non-inertial frame. In other words, the Local Poincare Transformation is more general and can be applied to accelerated frames of reference.

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In experiments, the Local Poincare Transformation is used to correct for the effects of motion and acceleration on measurements. This is crucial in high-precision experiments, where even small changes in reference frames can have significant impacts on the results. By applying the Local Poincare Transformation, scientists can account for these effects and make more accurate measurements.

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