Can Isosceles Triangles Solve This Geometry Problem?

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In summary, the conversation discusses trying and failing to solve a math problem involving ratios and isosceles triangles. It is determined that there is not enough information provided to solve the problem, and an additional fact is needed. The conversation also mentions the position of a point and the lengths of two sides being uniquely determined. Finally, the conversation mentions the problem being solved on a different platform.
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I tried about an hour to solve this but couldn't get the ratios to work I assume there are isoseles triangles in this but that is just observation
 

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I do not believe that there is enough information here to provide a solution. You need an additional fact, such as for example the length of the sides of the square.

The point $P$ must lie on an Apollonius circle with its centre on the line $BD$. (That is the set of all points for which the distances $PD$ and $PB$ are in the ratio 5 to 6.)

The area of the triangle $APC$ is half the diagonal $AC$ times the distance of $P$ from $AC$. But unless you know the length of that diagonal you cannot fix the position of $P$ or the lengths $PB$ and $PD$.

Edit. ILS's neat solution below shows that I was wrong. I was trying to determine the position of the point $P$, and it's true that this cannot be determined without further information. But the lengths $PB$ and $PD$ are uniquely determined, which I find quite surprising.
 
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Sorry Opalg, I'm afraid I have to disagree. (Wink)

Let's say the square has side $s$.
Let's pick $A$ at the origin $O$.
And lets' pick $P=(p,q)$.
Then $A=(0,0), B=(s,0), C=(s,s), D=(0,s)$.

The triangle $ACP$ has area:
$$\frac 12 \| \vec{AP} \times \vec{AC} \| = \frac 12 \| \vec{OP} \times \vec{OC} \| = \frac 12 |ps-qs| = 19 \tag 1$$
The other equations yield:
$$PD=15x \quad\Rightarrow\quad p^2 + (s-q)^2 = (15x)^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad p^2+q^2+s^2 - 2qs = 225x^2 \tag 2$$
$$PB=18x \quad\Rightarrow\quad (s-p)^2 + q^2 = (18x)^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad p^2+q^2+s^2 - 2ps = 324x^2 \tag 3$$

Subtract $(2)$ from $(3)$:
$$-2ps + 2qs = 99x^2$$

Combine with $(1)$:
$$4 \cdot 19 = 99x^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad x = \sqrt{\frac{4\cdot 19}{99}} = \frac 23\sqrt{\frac{19}{11}}$$
 
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wow thank you

I spent another 2 hours on this but couldn't make those conections

I found this on G+ but everyone was giving up. but here it got solved.😎
 

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