Can k(x) be Generated with Only One Rational Fraction?

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In summary, the problem is to find a rational function $f(x)$ over a field $k$ that is not a finitely generated k-algebra. The formal proof is difficult, but it can be generalized to any number of generators.
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I would be grateful if someone could get me started on the following problem:

"Prove that the field k(x) of rational functions over k in the variable x is not a finitely generated k-algebra." (Dummit and Foote Chapter 15, page 668)

Peter

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Hint: Any finite set of generators of $k(x)$ only produce a finite number of irreducible factors in the denominators.
 
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Fernando Revilla said:
Hint: Any finite set of generators of $k(x)$ only produce a finite number of irreducible factors in the denominators.

Thanks Fernando.

My apologies ... I need a little more help ... Can you start me on the formal proof ..

I also need some help as to why irreducible elements enter the picture ...

Peter
 
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This is the idea: suppose for example that $k(x)$ is generated by only one $p_1(x)/q_1(x)\in k(x).$ This means that $k(x)=k\left[p_1(x)/q_1(x)\right].$ But the elements of $k\left[p_1(x)/q_1(x)\right]$ have the form
$$a_n\left(\dfrac{p_1(x)}{q_1(x)}\right)^n+\ldots+a_1\dfrac{p_1(x)}{q_1(x)}+a_0=\dfrac{p(x)}{\left(q_1(x)\right)^n}\quad (a_i\in k,\;p(x)\in k[x])$$
The denominator has a finite number of irreducible factors. This means that we can't generate $k(x)$ with only one rational fraction (the number of irreducible plolynomials in $k(x)$ is infinite). Try to generalize to any finite number of generators.
 
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Fernando Revilla said:
This is the idea: suppose for example that $k(x)$ is generated by only one $p_1(x)/q_1(x)\in k(x).$ This means that $k(x)=k\left[p_1(x)/q_1(x)\right].$ But the elements of $k\left[p_1(x)/q_1(x)\right]$ have the form
$$a_n\left(\dfrac{p_1(x)}{q_1(x)}\right)^n+\ldots+a_1\dfrac{p_1(x)}{q_1(x)}+a_0=\dfrac{p(x)}{\left(q_1(x)\right)^n}\quad (a_i\in k,\;p(x)\in k[x])$$
The denominator has a finite number of irreducible factors. This means that we can't generate $k(x)$ with only one rational fraction (the number of irreducible plolynomials in $k(x)$ is infinite). Try to generalize to any finite number of generators.

Thanks Fernando, I appreciate your help.

Peter
 

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